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Old 04-16-2011 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Walkeraviator
Thats about what everyone else pays in that situation. And a smidge more than most regionals pay first year FO's...
That wasn't what the comment or thread was about. He is talking about a career change into aviation, specifically Ameriflight. Re-read my comment... I wasn't trying to say others pay more, although there definitely are operators that do pay more. My schedule and QOL were considerably better first year at ExpressJet, than it was at Ameriflight. And second year at ExpressJet was much more than Ameriflight, not even counting the benefits (loss of license/medical, health insurance was far superior, 401k match, non-rev benefits, etc etc)

But to stay on topic, they will hire regardless of your age, and you will do some serious flying. Some runs are really low time, so that would be a drawback if you're trying to build time fast to move on. Upgrade can be quick if you are willing to move.

Save as much money as you can now... you will need it getting started in this career path.
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Old 05-14-2011 | 01:20 PM
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Disregard....

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Old 05-14-2011 | 01:28 PM
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There is an internship through ERAU and Purdue. See Michael Gregory at the Prescott campus if your interested.
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Old 05-25-2011 | 03:08 AM
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Originally Posted by ImperialxRat
I hope you have a nest egg stashed away, because pay on the Navajo and 99 is horrible. I was taking home $1600/mo when I was there.
I was taking almost that much home every two weeks flying a Beech 99 for Freight Runners. It had its draw backs, but with the very demanding schedule they required doing UPS feed I would have not done it for a penny less than what I did it for, and considered myself underpaid on most days. With that said, everyone's situation is different, and I don't know all the details about schedule and quality of life @ Ameriflight, but I do know that Freight Runners pretty much owned you for that pay check, but you could achieve more in a year in a down economy for your resume than you could in 3 years in a up economy at a regional, I'm sure the same is true at Ameriflight.
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Old 05-25-2011 | 05:28 PM
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Old 05-25-2011 | 05:31 PM
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Originally Posted by BTPM
There is an internship through ERAU and Purdue. See Michael Gregory at the Prescott campus if your interested.
I got the fall internship at amflight, can't wait to start!!!
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Old 06-09-2011 | 05:40 AM
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Can I ask what all is involved with the internship?
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Old 06-30-2011 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Oldog
Three years at Ameriflight, which will likely but a couple thousand hours of multiengine PIC time in your logbook -- mostly turbine after the first year -- as well as substantial weather flying experience, will make you a prime candidate for the majors at a time that will likely coincide with an increasingly critical pilot shortage in the US.
what are you smokin dude? Who has gone from AMFML to a major in the last, oh lets say 10 years? Heck, has it happened at all in the last 40 years? I see AMF pilots leaving to go to 2 places. MOST go to the regionals, some go on to corporate or other 135 gigs. Maybe a few of the lucky guys went somewhere like Alegiant, but that is purely rumor and extremely rare. They had some sort of inside connection to even get their resume looked at.


To anyone considering Ameriflight, I highly urge you to consider going to a regional. AMF is a dead end job that eventually leads you to the right seat of a CRJ anyway, so why wait? Get your seniority now instead of starting at the bottom after a few years at AMF.

Disclaimer: I am not a disgruntled former or current employee. I think overall AMF is a semi-fair place to work. The experience gained here is awesome and the flying really is fun. But when I see 1900 and SA227 Captains with no black marks on their records, thousands of hours of TPIC , and no one will look at them except the regionals, I see a dead end job. The Majors want military and 121 time. period. AMF cant give you either so whats the long term advantage of coming here?
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Old 06-30-2011 | 02:01 PM
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In your other thread you said "Tons" of 1900 and Metro pilots are leaving to go to the regionals. Would you be so kind as to PM me the names of these individuals? I'll bet you can't because its not true. In regards to 1900 and Metro pilots you said, "no one will look at them except the regionals." This is simply not true. I may well be the most recent 1900/Metro pilot to leave Ameriflight and I got a damn good job. One of the main reasons was because of my current employers respect for the skills required to fly single pilot freight in turbo props. Ameriflight was the best thing that happened to my career. I know that some don't have the same good experience with the company as I did, but your statements are simply untrue. I received my recall letter from Shuttle America while working at Ameriflight, and giving up my recall rights was the best thing I could've done for my career. The regionals are a great place to work for the right individuals; I enjoyed very much flying an RJ and the crews I worked with while it lasted. That being said, you are drinking a bit too much of the RJ cool-aid. The one individual that I know of (not personally) that left the Metro to fly for the regionals recently was a very special circumstance... There may have been a FEW others over the last 6-9 months but "tons?" Maybe you are mistaken for 99 pilots. Dead end job?! Come on, dude...
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Old 06-30-2011 | 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by mwf008
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In your other thread you said "Tons" of 1900 and Metro pilots are leaving to go to the regionals. Would you be so kind as to PM me the names of these individuals? I'll bet you can't because its not true. In regards to 1900 and Metro pilots you said, "no one will look at them except the regionals." This is simply not true. I may well be the most recent 1900/Metro pilot to leave Ameriflight and I got a damn good job. One of the main reasons was because of my current employers respect for the skills required to fly single pilot freight in turbo props. Ameriflight was the best thing that happened to my career. I know that some don't have the same good experience with the company as I did, but your statements are simply untrue. I received my recall letter from Shuttle America while working at Ameriflight, and giving up my recall rights was the best thing I could've done for my career. The regionals are a great place to work for the right individuals; I enjoyed very much flying an RJ and the crews I worked with while it lasted. That being said, you are drinking a bit too much of the RJ cool-aid. The one individual that I know of (not personally) that left the Metro to fly for the regionals recently was a very special circumstance... There may have been a FEW others over the last 6-9 months but "tons?" Maybe you are mistaken for 99 pilots. Dead end job?! Come on, dude...
I agree. You could also be a 121 pilot with around or over 1000 hours 121 time and go fly freight for a while. Once you get your 1000 TPIC, you then have 135 and 121 experience. I feel that scenario will give a candidate a good chance on getting a good job with the well rounded experience they will be bringing to the table.
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