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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:09 PM
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Has anybody gotten called or had an interview for an FO spot recently?
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Old 07-13-2020 | 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by BravoPapa
It doesn’t tell you that at all. It could be the exact opposite. It could be because they’re concerned, especially during times of furlough, that you may leave after the airline jobs open back up. It could mean a number of things. It’s just an informational question. The question itself gives you no indication of why they’re asking.

121 furloughs are going to be deep and recalls won’t happens for at least 18mo. If you think a 135 pax operator is going to hire a piston pilot with 135IFR mins over an ATP turbine pilot just because they are afraid the pilot may leave in a year your need to get on oxygen. Boutique isn’t a career operator they know they are a stepping stone employer. They even rolled their CA pay back to $35K/year. That’s not something a company does to retain pilots long term.

6mo go aviation was a min requirement job market, it’s not any longer and won’t be again for a few years.

Sure the small mom and pop charter 135’s won’t touch the airline guys, for fear they will leave. But the bigger operators, want the more experienced pilots.


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Old 07-14-2020 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Joebob21
In a nutshell -CEO slashed minimum guarantee to $35K/year.
He did so understanding the stipulations of the CARES act.
Wisely and beneficially for him, he did this prior to applying for and accepting CARES act money, thus only being required to pay pilots the lesser rate despite receiving over 8 million dollars in federal aid.
Im not sure if this is still the case, someone still with the company may have more information.
it’s the case, take home is about 750 every two weeks for an FO and a little more for a captain. Enjoy
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Old 07-14-2020 | 10:41 AM
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Thanks for the replies.
So was this billed as a permanent reduction and the new normal?
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Old 07-14-2020 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by hiwas
Thanks for the replies.
So was this billed as a permanent reduction and the new normal?
What it was is an insult to the entire pilot group, Boutique survives nearly entirely off of government funded EAS routes and only very briefly lost the extra passenger revenue. Corona was merely an excuse to cut pay and other benefits. They also took away Paid Time off accrual, and longevity bonuses. They better be prepared for the mass exodus that they created.
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Old 07-14-2020 | 11:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Joebob21
What it was is an insult to the entire pilot group, Boutique survives nearly entirely off of government funded EAS routes and only very briefly lost the extra passenger revenue. Corona was merely an excuse to cut pay and other benefits. They also took away Paid Time off accrual, and longevity bonuses. They better be prepared for the mass exodus that they created.
Mass exodus to where, exactly?
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Old 07-14-2020 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by colonials13
Mass exodus to where, exactly?
To nowhere and he knows it.. all bluster
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Old 07-14-2020 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by StuckOnReserve
121 furloughs are going to be deep and recalls won’t happens for at least 18mo. If you think a 135 pax operator is going to hire a piston pilot with 135IFR mins over an ATP turbine pilot just because they are afraid the pilot may leave in a year your need to get on oxygen. Boutique isn’t a career operator they know they are a stepping stone employer. They even rolled their CA pay back to $35K/year. That’s not something a company does to retain pilots long term.

6mo go aviation was a min requirement job market, it’s not any longer and won’t be again for a few years.

Sure the small mom and pop charter 135’s won’t touch the airline guys, for fear they will leave. But the bigger operators, want the more experienced pilots.


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If there were two pilots, both 2.5k hours and all the other experience they're looking for, and one has 121 experience, who are they going to hire? Not the one with the 121 experience. They're most likely looking at Boutique because they're without a 121 position for whatever reason at the moment and probably looking to go back. Boutique knows when they hire someone with lower time that the person is building experience for probably 121. That's a given. But to hire someone with it already, and they are already past time building time, they will take the one that has the same experience without the 121 experience. They already have the hours to go to 121 and haven't. They're more likely to stay.
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Old 07-14-2020 | 01:26 PM
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Why would someone who has 121 time ( and over 1500 plus hours) outside of retirees who just want to fly take a $750 paycheck when you could make double that at least working at Costco????
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Old 07-14-2020 | 01:47 PM
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Is it just the minimum guarantee that changed or the hourly pay rate changed as well?
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