PSA or Commutair?
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Full classes may be good optics for recruiting, but if a large portion of those washout, at what point will it start to negatively affect staffing levels?
My understanding is we are scaling back class size to hopefully lessen the high rate of failure.
For those that think it will be 5 years by the time the regionals start seeing the negative effects of shrinking pilot group, it's already here and the landscape will drastically change in the next 2-3 years.
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Halfway between ORD and either DAY or CVG. Envoy wants prior 121 time and I'm not particularly enamored with either SKW or RAH. C5 has some good things going despite the commute to EWR but it's also hard to argue against the relatively easier commute to DAY/CVG. The flow, albeit 7+ yrs out (if real) seems like a great thing to have as a backup, plus being able to hold a line quickly out of IOE in DAY/CVG.
Just looking for additional insight, considerations (both pros and cons), etc.
Just looking for additional insight, considerations (both pros and cons), etc.
It'd be a much shorter drive. They pay better than PSA. You'd move up their seniority list faster. I hear they're supposed to be doing some big hiring this year.
There are a lot of pilots after me at PSA (in not too much time) because I got in reasonably early in a big hiring wave. Look for the airline that will be hiring many hundreds of pilots this coming year.
I've heard that C5 people are great at getting you in the door, but then treat their pilot group like crap. C5 is small, unpredictable, and growing at the expense of legacy XJT. I wish the best for those XJT guys, and wouldn't want to be a part of an airline that is literally taking their planes. At RAH (knowing their history), at least you expect to be taken advantage of. But I've heard things are significantly better after their contract a couple years ago.
Really, though. The drive to IND must be short? Unless you were wanting to move anyways, go to RAH...
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Yes, I just sincerely hope that we don't sacrifice quality too much along the way. Pilot quality is usually (and historically) the biggest factor for safe operations. If the FAA permits forced upgrades among people who honestly don't feel ready for the left seat, I wonder what's next...
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Experienced educators understand that class size (within reason) has little to do with student success. Instructor quality is THE most important factor. Especially if you are breaking students into small groups for the most important parts of training (IPTs and SIMs) anyways. I hope attention is given in the right areas...
Yes, I just sincerely hope that we don't sacrifice quality too much along the way. Pilot quality is usually (and historically) the biggest factor for safe operations. If the FAA permits forced upgrades among people who honestly don't feel ready for the left seat, I wonder what's next...
Yes, I just sincerely hope that we don't sacrifice quality too much along the way. Pilot quality is usually (and historically) the biggest factor for safe operations. If the FAA permits forced upgrades among people who honestly don't feel ready for the left seat, I wonder what's next...
I dunno, there still seems to be a disconnect between IPTs and Sims. But that's just my opinion.
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That'd straighten some stuff out pretty quick.
But it would cost $$$$$
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Or don't hire people who failed sims to teach ITP ? Do it like we used to and have experienced FOs do IPT training... Oh wait they were all forced upgrade...
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