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arbalist1 01-25-2021 04:27 AM

I know there's all this hubbub about PSA potentially being sold. I'm no expert, but why would loading up your company with extra costs attract buyers? Airlines typically try to run as lean as possible before selling in order to increase the value of their balance sheet.

I think worst case scenario right now is PSA needs to have a lot of excess pilots on hand if AA declares bankruptcy. They know a huge number of pilots will bail if we get hit with a 20% pay cut and the contract and all LOAs go out the window. Bankruptcy court could easily force us into PBS as well. I guess the good news would be that AA plans on keeping PSA around?

Baldheadedman66 01-25-2021 04:44 AM


Originally Posted by arbalist1 (Post 3186069)
I know there's all this hubbub about PSA potentially being sold. I'm no expert, but why would loading up your company with extra costs attract buyers? Airlines typically try to run as lean as possible before selling in order to increase the value of their balance sheet.

I think worst case scenario right now is PSA needs to have a lot of excess pilots on hand if AA declares bankruptcy. They know a huge number of pilots will bail if we get hit with a 20% pay cut and the contract and all LOAs go out the window. Bankruptcy court could easily force us into PBS as well. I guess the good news would be that AA plans on keeping PSA around?

This is why I don't think anything is happening to PSA (but I could be wrong). Why would PSA hire a bunch of pilots and sell us off to someone else? Let's just say that Skywest wants to buy us; Skywest doesn't want the pilots, they want the airplanes and the routes. They could care less about throwing 2,000+ pilots on the street once the deal's done.

I think that PSA is getting ready for BK when they lessen the scope clause to allow regionals to fly more routes for AA. We're also getting more routes added it seems weekly out of Charlotte as well.

ZeroTT 01-25-2021 06:39 AM

Here’s the scenario where hiring makes sense

AA is shopping PSA to private equity firms. The airline will come bundled with a long-term contract. The numbers will show an X% return on investment. The bigger psa is, the more revenue, the more profit, the more a buyer will pay

and my guess is flow stays intact. Doesn’t cost AA anything really and helps labor costs to newPSA

arbalist1 01-25-2021 08:38 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3186137)
Here’s the scenario where hiring makes sense

AA is shopping PSA to private equity firms. The airline will come bundled with a long-term contract. The numbers will show an X% return on investment. The bigger psa is, the more revenue, the more profit, the more a buyer will pay

and my guess is flow stays intact. Doesn’t cost AA anything really and helps labor costs to newPSA

I just fail to see how decreasing profit margins by increasing labor costs will raise the sale price. But I know as much about selling an airline as I do about humpback whale migratory patterns.

captive apple 01-25-2021 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by arbalist1 (Post 3186179)
I just fail to see how decreasing profit margins by increasing labor costs will raise the sale price. But I know as much about selling an airline as I do about humpback whale migratory patterns.

You are correct here. In a previous life decisions were made for short term cost/profitability instead of a better long term plan.
IMO, unless this is part of the deal with the purchasing company that PSA tie up their loose ends, I’d say it is more for optics at a bankruptcy proceeding. May second guess would be that is this is plain great news PSA and terrible news for a one of the AE regionals.

BurnerAccount69 01-25-2021 09:58 AM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3186137)
Here’s the scenario where hiring makes sense

AA is shopping PSA to private equity firms. The airline will come bundled with a long-term contract. The numbers will show an X% return on investment. The bigger psa is, the more revenue, the more profit, the more a buyer will pay

and my guess is flow stays intact. Doesn’t cost AA anything really and helps labor costs to newPSA

I hope people aren't actually losing sleep over this. Last year around May/June everyone was saying we're going to get com air'd, now there is this. Just do your job and try not worry about the rest, because it is out of our hands.

captande 01-25-2021 11:27 AM


Originally Posted by BurnerAccount69 (Post 3186235)
I hope people aren't actually losing sleep over this. Last year around May/June everyone was saying we're going to get com air'd, now there is this. Just do your job and try not worry about the rest, because it is out of our hands.

Exactly, it does bode well we had some of the highest performance numbers of the entire AE portfolio. When it comes down to it, pandemic, bankruptcy, or alien invasion, DOT is still the king.

plane builder 01-25-2021 01:25 PM


Originally Posted by TheRubberDucky (Post 3185898)
Yeah I got a call from someone and they told me a pilot recruiter would call me and set me up for the same thing either Friday or a Monday with ATP/CTP Wednesday and Feb 8 class date, but haven’t gotten the second call.

Abbreviated interview similar to the first? Just IFR stuff?

I got the same initial call as you on Thursday about a Wednesday or feb 8th class, but was told I would be called Friday. Still nothing have you heard anything new?

For those that have gotten to the second call how many days between did you experience?

Hopefully we're not falling thorough the cracks or something here, I know they're probably busy...

TheRubberDucky 01-25-2021 01:32 PM


Originally Posted by plane builder (Post 3186336)
I got the same initial call as you on Thursday about a Wednesday or feb 8th class, but was told I would be called Friday. Still nothing have you heard anything new?

For those that have gotten to the second call how many days between did you experience?

Hopefully we're not falling thorough the cracks or something here, I know they're probably busy...


Emailed my recruiter and he said if I haven’t heard anything Wednesday to reach out again. Another guy in my interview class got his call today and he was also called like me on Thursday.

CptnDave 01-25-2021 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by ZeroTT (Post 3186137)
Here’s the scenario where hiring makes sense

AA is shopping PSA to private equity firms. The airline will come bundled with a long-term contract. The numbers will show an X% return on investment. The bigger psa is, the more revenue, the more profit, the more a buyer will pay

and my guess is flow stays intact. Doesn’t cost AA anything really and helps labor costs to newPSA

I honestly think another possible scenario is you guys and Piedmont merging. Different fleet types and consolidating management. Having CJO's out can be tricky with a merger. Just a thought though probably wrong.


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