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Old 07-24-2013 | 07:51 PM
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Old 07-24-2013 | 10:35 PM
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Originally Posted by skyxbomb
Hahahaha talk about chemical warfare!!

I wonder how many takes it took MS to do that recording with a straight face!
The brown bomber was a j for j who is long gone now.

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Old 07-25-2013 | 12:16 AM
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I think we should be open to negotiations. With all the money us airways is making they probably just want to raise the pay rate and up our per deim. Otherwise why would they call this meeting. They just agreed to a contract that took 4 years to hammer out.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 09:56 AM
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Probably to ask for more concessions. Seems like the tune that management is singing now at the places that are in contract negotiations.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by ross9238
Probably to ask for more concessions. Seems like the tune that management is singing now at the places that are in contract negotiations.
Even the ones whom aren't in negotiations. The only pilot groups not being told they are expensive are, TSH, silver, GLA and pinnacle... The rest of us are being told that we are expensive. Basically 75 of the industry is expensive!!!
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Old 07-25-2013 | 10:52 AM
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Of course they're asking for concessions. And in this case, it will go to a pilot vote. Its incredibly important that this pilot group not get scared into voting in any of this crap. They expanded the training center for a reason. Our little vote is insignificant in the master plan. They're just trying to take advantage of our ignorance and save a few bucks where they can. Stay calm, stay united, vote NO when the time comes.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 10:57 AM
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I've only had one guy who said he'll take concessions. Everyone else I've spoke to said F no. One guy said 10 cents concession for mainline number. I'm with the last guy. Or I think he got the idea from me except I'm willing to take 50 cents cut for a mainline seniority.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by fullflank
Of course they're asking for concessions. And in this case, it will go to a pilot vote. Its incredibly important that this pilot group not get scared into voting in any of this crap. They expanded the training center for a reason. Our little vote is insignificant in the master plan. They're just trying to take advantage of our ignorance and save a few bucks where they can. Stay calm, stay united, vote NO when the time comes.
If we say no, its only a matter of time before they offer this deal to someone else...If this is offered to Piedmont I can almost guarantee you they will say yes. If I'm not mistaken the CRJ's were first offered to Piedmont they said no and PSA said yes...lets not be PDT in 10 years still flying 200's....before you say NO think about your future here at psa...I would take a concession if that means I get a number at Airways. Plus with this 1500 hour rule we need to make psa a more attractive place to work
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Old 07-25-2013 | 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
If we say no, its only a matter of time before they offer this deal to someone else...If this is offered to Piedmont I can almost guarantee you they will say yes. If I'm not mistaken the CRJ's were first offered to Piedmont they said no and PSA said yes...lets not be PDT in 10 years still flying 200's....before you say NO think about your future here at psa...I would take a concession if that means I get a number at Airways. Plus with this 1500 hour rule we need to make psa a more attractive place to work
I am thinking about my future at psa, im just not allowing myself to become scared of getting "comaired" in order to do whats right. We are already extremely under paid, even with a new contract which took years to negotiate. How would taking concessions make this place more appealing? Because of some flow to mainline? People take jobs based on bills they have to pay today, not hoping your number comes up for mainline in 5-10 years. If we accept concessions, we will be under cutting what eagle mec just did, and thats just wrong man. This is why eagle mec didnt even let it go to a vote (rightfully so). Too many scared self serving pilots willing to work for peanuts for growth.
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Old 07-25-2013 | 11:37 AM
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Originally Posted by weekendflyer
If we say no, its only a matter of time before they offer this deal to someone else...If this is offered to Piedmont I can almost guarantee you they will say yes. If I'm not mistaken the CRJ's were first offered to Piedmont they said no and PSA said yes...lets not be PDT in 10 years still flying 200's....before you say NO think about your future here at psa...I would take a concession if that means I get a number at Airways. Plus with this 1500 hour rule we need to make psa a more attractive place to work
Wow!!! You are entitled to your vote and opinion, but this is the attitude that has landed us where we are.
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