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Old 09-23-2015 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Stupid wifi.
You know it's coming, I guess it is possible they have you that brainwashed though. cheerlead psa all you want I don't care, it's like watching a woman justify domestic violence when a man hits her. It's disgusting. SAP will mean nothing when you're loosing 5-10 min of pay per leg because you're not getting paid until you push 10 ft
Or you push on time, get paid no less than block but since CLT is a cluster, you routinely over block. It's not complicated but please continue to try to make up an issue that doesn't exist. Oh yeah, the 700/900 pay starts at door closure so please try to block our push.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrt
Really...first picture I see.



"Hiring 1000 additional pilots in next 24 months."



https://www.facebook.com/PSAairlines

Yes that's a goal. Will It happen?

Good luck!


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Old 09-23-2015 | 06:04 AM
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Originally Posted by AlphaMikeFoxtrt
Really...first picture I see.

"Hiring 1000 additional pilots in next 24 months."

https://www.facebook.com/PSAairlines
What they want and what they get are two different things. Every regional our there is going to want 1000 pilots.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 06:15 AM
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What they want and what they get are two different things. Every regional our there is going to want 1000 pilots.
Or maybe they intentionally inflated their hiring goal for two reasons:
1) they want to give the impression that upgrades will continue, fast and furious and
2) they can join the legions of airline executives who continue trotting up to capital hill and beat on congress to lower the hiring minimums, because they're not able to "meet their hiring goals". If SOME regional airlines ARE able to meet their hiring goals it makes it tougher on the RAA to get the minimums reduced.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 07:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Slick111
Or maybe they intentionally inflated their hiring goal for two reasons:
1) they want to give the impression that upgrades will continue, fast and furious and
2) they can join the legions of airline executives who continue trotting up to capital hill and beat on congress to lower the hiring minimums, because they're not able to "meet their hiring goals". If SOME regional airlines ARE able to meet their hiring goals it makes it tougher on the RAA to get the minimums reduced.
Well unless you are saying the ~70 airplanes still yet to be delivered are not coming, then you are just trying to start up some sh*t. I'm happy to play along, truth is I've missed b*tch slapping alot of you (especially my one buddy from envoy, he knows who he is). For now though I'll just keep it cool and show you this new article from Monday. This is to support all the new airplanes coming.

PSA Airlines Expanding In Dayton And Cincinnati | WVXU
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Old 09-23-2015 | 07:16 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Or you push on time, get paid no less than block but since CLT is a cluster, you routinely over block. It's not complicated but please continue to try to make up an issue that doesn't exist. Oh yeah, the 700/900 pay starts at door closure so please try to block our push.
Doesn't matter if you push on time, your historical block is based off of door close to door open. It will take a while for historical block to catch up, but your block and therefore credit times will do down. Depending on number of legs, the average credit on your 4 day trips just went down 1-2 hours. But, if this is not happening on the 7/900 then it's not that big of a deal for you guys. Only a few get screwed each day.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by FirstClass
Well unless you are saying the ~70 airplanes still yet to be delivered are not coming, then you are just trying to start up some sh*t. I'm happy to play along, truth is I've missed b*tch slapping alot of you (especially my one buddy from envoy, he knows who he is). For now though I'll just keep it cool and show you this new article from Monday. This is to support all the new airplanes coming.

PSA Airlines Expanding In Dayton And Cincinnati | WVXU
Slow clap........
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Old 09-23-2015 | 07:31 AM
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I do have to give props to the PSA recruiting/marketing team though, they are so good at selling bull$**t they not only have their own pilots believing it, they have them promoting it too!

Originally Posted by FirstClass
Why do you even care?? I mean I want to help you out a little but give me something to work with.
I care because as long as selfish idiots support an airline like PSA, the industry will never change. The only way to change is to stand together and demand respect for the profession.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
I care because as long as selfish idiots support an airline like PSA, the industry will never change. The only way to change is to stand together and demand respect for the profession.
There is no unity at the regional's. Never has been, never will be. The airline industry is changing despite PSA and our vote. There are no pilot groups voting in concessions in all of the latest TAs. PSA didn't force Envoy's hand in their TA. The decision was theirs and theirs alone.

And how am I selfish for coming here? I have a relatively easy 1 leg commute to work and I can hold a line 4 months after IOE. Should I explain to my family that, "I have decided to spend less time at home with you for the betterment of the entire regional airline industry which by the way doesn't give 2 squats about me". Sure buddy. When you come back to reality you go ahead and try and tell me "I'm selfish" for choosing PSA.
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Old 09-23-2015 | 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by spaaks
Doesn't matter if you push on time, your historical block is based off of door close to door open. It will take a while for historical block to catch up, but your block and therefore credit times will do down. Depending on number of legs, the average credit on your 4 day trips just went down 1-2 hours. But, if this is not happening on the 7/900 then it's not that big of a deal for you guys. Only a few get screwed each day.
We are out of the big summer travel season. 1-2 hour drop on a 4 days isn't a big deal. I still average 80-85 hours a month with 12-15 days off. There's plenty of flying if you want it.

Most of our 200s are relegated to TYS where push back isn't a factor. Yes, the block calculation screws us on the 200.
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