1stCivDivPilot

Call it what you want. Panties/entitlement/whatever. The rest of the industry standard is shrinking upgrade times and quite a few are under 2 years. We are going stagnant. Where's the single digit April upgrade bid? Sorry my luck and timing for joining the industry is better than yours. I'm not tying my hands because you had to live a different career progression. You just come off as bitter and angry. And yes I will gladly go to Endeavor, at twice the pay with short upgrade, next fall if this place continues on its current path. Of course Spriit, Atlas and most other places are on the list too.

joek

Yes, please go on? Why didn't we take the retention bonus?

Binksy

Honestly, there is a very small window of opportunity to jump in a new regional before their own wave crashes nowadays. Today's diamond is tomorrow's lump of coal, and that cycle will continue probably for years. Personal opinion, but to time it right at any regional today takes a good bit of luck. Would anyone going to Endeavor this fall really upgrade in under two years? Who knows. Two or three years ago, Compass was the place to be. Now? Republic used to be the hotspot. Now? Two years ago Endeavor couldn't stop the bleeding fast enough. Now, it's sunshine and rainbows. Will it last? For years and years, ExpressJet was the gold standard for pay, contract, and stability. Now? Not so much. Without giving a regional two years (in my humble opinion) you are selling yourself short. In the time it takes to reapply, interview, complete training at a new company, get off reserve, get the base you really want, and get off probation at a new place, things will have completely changed at your current airline. Guaranteed.

1stCivDivPilot

Because it was an insult compared to other bonuses and would still keep us as one of the lowest paid.

As I've given you a short list, please sing me the praises of PSA. It's nice for you to claim how things are just peachy but not actually provide any proof.

Pilotatheart

We dont like to bend over.

joek

Where did I say it was peachy? So leaving MONEY ON THE TABLE WAS A BETTER OPTION? *** are you thinking? The company was giving us money and wanting NOTHING IN RETURN. NOTHING

DirectTo

Just the messenger:

We need to get pilots here NOW. We need to take this retention bonus to keep pilots here and bring in new hires or the upgrades won't happen, flow will stop, schedules will get worse, and planes will be parked or shifted around.

Envoy is pulling 145s out of the desert, clearly they're staffing. WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT THIS TO HAPPEN?? Demand the MEC to take the deal, email them NOW! THE OFFER IS STILL THERE. TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GET NOW.

Go for contract gains later, like in June when we meet with the company to renegotiate the flow.

1stCivDivPilot

They always get something and in this case it was half the pilot group at $0.50 on the dollar and the other half at $0. I couldn't care less about fixing this place. However, the funny thing is that if they would do the most basic stuff like honor the contract and at least match the other companies moves, staffing would be easy.

Once again you are arguing against my opinion and perceived issues without providing anything tangible besides "na uh!" How do you see PSA being successful as is?

astec

LOL.. is this one of those stupid facebook groups where all the FO's talk about there problems?

There is no contract gain in June, to get gains, you have to give something up, thats how 121 works, be it direct or indirect.

FourPutt

We are staffed for the rest of the year, including the next 10 or so 900s that haven't arrived yet. PDT and PSA said no to the bonuses because FO attrition isn't an issue like at Envoy, if it becomes an issue in the future then they might think about it or better yet use that leverage to make improvements for everyone like Endeavor did.