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03-22-2016 | 04:29 PM

#1621

FourPutt

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Originally Posted by WakeWash

Where do you get that flows will stop?

People in the AA training Dept I know, also the PSA MEC Chairman hinted at this on the last conference call. Depending on how many furloughs return to AA it could be awhile until flows start up again at all 3 WOs.

03-22-2016 | 04:36 PM

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It's no secret AA is going to be taking back furloughed pilots this summer. The pilots have until May(I think) to declare their intentions. Flows will stop for at least 2 months.

03-22-2016 | 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot

Not stressed at all. There's a pilot shortage. I can get hired anywhere else for more money. I need to stick around until my son is born and I'm on the cusp of upgrade, unless they stick to 4 every other month. This place has fallen apart in the last 4 months. The industry doesn't allow for the slow reactionary way of business any more. Even if things are turned around overnight, it's too late for summer flying. We might see the effects by next winter. We are shrinking and will probably soon watch our 900s go somewhere else like Mesa because they have pilots. 4 alarm dumpster fire. But it's okay, we are in short supply. PSA can/will fall apart and I won't be stressed about it at all. I don't expect D&D to make the necessary changes.

I don't think you really have any clue what "falling apart" looks or feels like. Brother, this ain't it. Negative on the dumpster fire. Put down the APC for a week and spend time with the Mrs. and maybe have a few cocktails. Trust me, when "falling apart" happens, you'll know.

03-22-2016 | 04:59 PM

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MitchRapp

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Originally Posted by Slick111

Is that why PSA management unilaterally decided to violate our contract and offer new hire pilots a $10,000 sign-on bonus,..... or $15,000 to new hires with prior 121 experience? Because we're "slightly over staffed" and "currently not hiring 60/month by choice"?

I currently don't need a new car. But I'm going to offer auto dealerships $10,000 over sticker price, if they'll sell one to me. $15,000 over sticker, if it's a blue car.

No, they did because Envoy is doing it. Right or wrong, had Envoy not taken the deal we wouldn't be offering this. Again...reaction reaction reaction. Quit thinking like a pilot and trying to fit square pegs into round holes. Management has their own line of reasoning and it is not even in the same galaxy as ours.

03-22-2016 | 05:02 PM

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MitchRapp

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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot

Sorry about the aggression. Depending on the list you look at I'm in the low 600s.

Did you bypass upgrade at any point or were you waiting for your 1000 SIC? If it's the latter then I'll say no more.

03-22-2016 | 05:04 PM

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1stCivDivPilot

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I love it. I'm on an overnight and the cable sucks. I'll spend vacation with the Mrs. decompressing from APC(another reason) I'm not jumping ship. I'll agree we aren't crashing and burning yet but we are maybe a few months away. All evidence from D&D is that the dumpster fire is imminent.

03-22-2016 | 05:10 PM

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Did you bypass upgrade at any point or were you waiting for your 1000 SIC? If it's the latter then I'll say no more.

I got the 1000 just recently. I was waiting for another full winter for the experience and I didn't want to lose my vacation bid for the first part of April, regardless of when I got the 1000.

03-22-2016 | 06:42 PM

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AA recalls

Estimates from the AA board show about 150-200 returning furloughees. May appears to be the final return or resign cutoff. 3-4 months training logjam. Merely Speculation and 3rd grade math.

03-22-2016 | 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FourPutt

Word from envoy is that we will keep sending flow in summer, less people but it will keep moving.

03-23-2016 | 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot

Not stressed at all. There's a pilot shortage. I can get hired anywhere else for more money. I need to stick around until my son is born and I'm on the cusp of upgrade, unless they stick to 4 every other month. This place has fallen apart in the last 4 months. The industry doesn't allow for the slow reactionary way of business any more. Even if things are turned around overnight, it's too late for summer flying. We might see the effects by next winter. We are shrinking and will probably soon watch our 900s go somewhere else like Mesa because they have pilots. 4 alarm dumpster fire. But it's okay, we are in short supply. PSA can/will fall apart and I won't be stressed about it at all. I don't expect D&D to make the necessary changes.

How has PSA fallen apart in the last 4 months? Give me some examples.