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#2611
No it's not the way it's always been. There are a few small, but important, changes.
Before when you were displaced for your line for whatever reason you would go home and be on lcr. You could call last out, and they would have to call other junior lcr prior to you before calling you 12 hours prior to your assignment.
Now, if they call you to inform you less than 24 hours before the start of your trip, you do have the option to go home pay protected without being lcr. This is a positive change, however, that's not what they do. They call you more than 24 hours in advance and leave part of your trip on you. While you are out on a trip they continue to add to your trip until your original time is up thus creating a whole new 4 day trip worth of reserve flying. What is different is that before, when you finished your regular schedule, you went home and sat lcr and could call last out. Now, last out means nothing because they basically use you before all other reserves. This turns line holders into scr during displacements. I'm not whining, I'm not complaining. I'm simply explaining the subtle difference between how it was last year versus now.
Before when you were displaced for your line for whatever reason you would go home and be on lcr. You could call last out, and they would have to call other junior lcr prior to you before calling you 12 hours prior to your assignment.
Now, if they call you to inform you less than 24 hours before the start of your trip, you do have the option to go home pay protected without being lcr. This is a positive change, however, that's not what they do. They call you more than 24 hours in advance and leave part of your trip on you. While you are out on a trip they continue to add to your trip until your original time is up thus creating a whole new 4 day trip worth of reserve flying. What is different is that before, when you finished your regular schedule, you went home and sat lcr and could call last out. Now, last out means nothing because they basically use you before all other reserves. This turns line holders into scr during displacements. I'm not whining, I'm not complaining. I'm simply explaining the subtle difference between how it was last year versus now.
#2612
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 21
It's a slight difference. Before, if you were only displaced for part of your trip you went home and had the option to call last out. also, they had to let 12 hours pass before they could use you again because you were a true long call. Now, they do not have to send you home for lcr after the flying that you were scheduled on your line. It's a very subtle change but it's very important.
#2613
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 119
So what's their next gimmick going to be?
PSA offered a "cadet program" (with a limited payment of student loans). Then they offered $5000 hiring bonuses. Then they offered $10,000 hiring bonuses. Then it was $15,000 hiring bonus for anyone with prior 121 experience. Then it was $15,000 for anyone with 135 experience. Now they want to pay first officers $10,000 annually to keep first officers from jumping ship.
By my calculations, PSA is out of gimmicks! What do you think PSA will do next in order to keep this sinking ship afloat?
PSA offered a "cadet program" (with a limited payment of student loans). Then they offered $5000 hiring bonuses. Then they offered $10,000 hiring bonuses. Then it was $15,000 hiring bonus for anyone with prior 121 experience. Then it was $15,000 for anyone with 135 experience. Now they want to pay first officers $10,000 annually to keep first officers from jumping ship.
By my calculations, PSA is out of gimmicks! What do you think PSA will do next in order to keep this sinking ship afloat?
#2614
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Joined APC: Sep 2015
Posts: 499
So what's their next gimmick going to be?
PSA offered a "cadet program" (with a limited payment of student loans). Then they offered $5000 hiring bonuses. Then they offered $10,000 hiring bonuses. Then it was $15,000 hiring bonus for anyone with prior 121 experience. Then it was $15,000 for anyone with 135 experience. Now they want to pay first officers $10,000 annually to keep first officers from jumping ship.
By my calculations, PSA is out of gimmicks! What do you think PSA will do next in order to keep this sinking ship afloat?
PSA offered a "cadet program" (with a limited payment of student loans). Then they offered $5000 hiring bonuses. Then they offered $10,000 hiring bonuses. Then it was $15,000 hiring bonus for anyone with prior 121 experience. Then it was $15,000 for anyone with 135 experience. Now they want to pay first officers $10,000 annually to keep first officers from jumping ship.
By my calculations, PSA is out of gimmicks! What do you think PSA will do next in order to keep this sinking ship afloat?
#2615
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 21
I agree that nothing so far has worked. I also agree that increases are needed. I'm just not sold on the idea that they care. I don't think they are delusional into thinking everything is great. I think they are well aware that we're shrinking instead of growing and I just don't think they really care. These nickels and dimes they throw out to "fix" the problem aren't fooling anyone. They have said are staffed to where they want to be and that's why they only need to hire for attrition.
#2618
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Joined APC: Jul 2014
Posts: 119
I agree that nothing so far has worked. I also agree that increases are needed. I'm just not sold on the idea that they care. I don't think they are delusional into thinking everything is great. I think they are well aware that we're shrinking instead of growing and I just don't think they really care. These nickels and dimes they throw out to "fix" the problem aren't fooling anyone. They have said are staffed to where they want to be and that's why they only need to hire for attrition.
#2619
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
It's a slight difference. Before, if you were only displaced for part of your trip you went home and had the option to call last out. also, they had to let 12 hours pass before they could use you again because you were a true long call. Now, they do not have to send you home for lcr after the flying that you were scheduled on your line. It's a very subtle change but it's very important.
If you are on LCR with an assignment they can add stuff onto you until they have nothing to add. Same as always.
Also, last out for LCR is useless. You are not last from ALL reserves, you are last out of LCRs only. How many LCRs do you think there are? Most of the awarded LCRs get removed due to additional buildups. So there MAY be 2 or 3 LCRs total. Your schedules won't line up and the company calls LCRs before all other reserves.
#2620
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Joined APC: Jul 2008
Position: Left
Posts: 1,809
A day can go critical at any point in the month. So if LCRs begin taking trips out of the pot then that greatly reduces the chance of any day being critical. Now, if it's only a displacement option, that may make a little more sense, but basically the result is the same: more reserves, less open time = less days critical and less need for the company to Jr man from a list.
Also I'm assuming we are ONLY talking about pilots displaced into LCR, not every LCR. Even if it were every LCR there aren't enough out there to really impact staffing by picking up trips.
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