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Old 04-19-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by penaltybox
Pay caps at year 4 for FOs and year 12 for CAs and increased health care cost.
Yup. As well as only 50% pay for deadheads, minimum day cutouts that make it almost worthless, and even more recently, severely screwing over the FO's by making the displacement clauses even weaker.
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Old 04-19-2016 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
What were those concessions? Details? Please cite exact examples.
Read above. Looks like everyone but you has an idea of what's going on..
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Old 04-19-2016 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
Yup. As well as only 50% pay for deadheads, minimum day cutouts that make it almost worthless, and even more recently, severely screwing over the FO's by making the displacement clauses even weaker.
No increase for inflation or cost of living and flying larger airplanes for the same pay.
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Old 04-20-2016 | 02:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Justrun
No increase for inflation or cost of living and flying larger airplanes for the same pay.
There is a yearly COL increase. And every 700 and 900 that comes onto property increases the hourly rate.

Continue on.
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Old 04-20-2016 | 04:14 AM
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Any particular reason the facebook page was removed?
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Old 04-20-2016 | 04:54 AM
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Originally Posted by manilo52
Any particular reason the facebook page was removed?
Someone in the pilot group dimed people out and supposedly there were threats of an FAA investigation. Not sure what the FAAs authority would be. Probably just a BS threat to get it shut down. Can't have the pions talking.
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Old 04-20-2016 | 04:57 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveAndBeyond
Yup. As well as only 50% pay for deadheads, minimum day cutouts that make it almost worthless, and even more recently, severely screwing over the FO's by making the displacement clauses even weaker.
Did we have more than 50% deadhead before? Are there FOs that are over 4 years, not due to personal choice?

I agree on the displacement language but that's due to the weak LOA, not the contract. I was told they were working on a fix in October. Big shocker there's no fix yet.
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Old 04-20-2016 | 06:00 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Someone in the pilot group dimed people out and supposedly there were threats of an FAA investigation. Not sure what the FAAs authority would be. Probably just a BS threat to get it shut down. Can't have the pions talking.
There was a new one setup within hours of the old one going down. And a new forum apparently.
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Old 04-20-2016 | 06:01 AM
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New forum, bluestreaklounge
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Old 04-20-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by 1stCivDivPilot
Someone in the pilot group dimed people out and supposedly there were threats of an FAA investigation. Not sure what the FAAs authority would be. Probably just a BS threat to get it shut down. Can't have the pions talking.

The correct response to the FAA and PSA mgmt should have been.

Contact my lawyer.

It's a free speech issue. **** em both.

End of story.
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