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06-19-2016 | 07:34 PM
#3372
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From: CRJ FO
Quick upgrade and 4 year flow are long gone. You will have about 400 - 500 FOs ahead of you to upgrade. That's a lot of movement that needs to happen in order for you to have your shot at CA upgrade. We are currently flowing 60 /year with the possibility of flowing almost 100 /year if we can grow more. However we have currently stopped growing because we can barely hire to keep up with attrition at the moment. Part of the problem is that our only easily commutable base (CLT) will mean a long time on reserve for a new hire.
06-19-2016 | 08:43 PM
#3373
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I've normally known "movement" to be based on growth, attrition, or any combination thereof.
Clearly there is "movement" at PSA? After all, PSA seems to be currently offering the highest bonuses in the industry? So seats need to be filled... yes?
Is that due to growth, or attrition? Or both?
And if it is exclusively due to attrition, yet no movement in CA seats... are more FO's (than CA's) leaving the property, in which need to be filled with new FO's?
06-20-2016 | 12:26 AM
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And how much is said "highest bonus"? To whom does it get paid?
PSA - $15K first year. $10K second year. $25 per hour. $1.75 per diem.
Republic - $7.5K/$15K/$20K first year depending on airframe and experience. $40 per hour. $1.95 per diem
Endeavor - $23K per year for everyone. $30 per hour. $1.70 per diem. Every hour over 85 is 150%.
PSA - $15K first year. $10K second year. $25 per hour. $1.75 per diem.
Republic - $7.5K/$15K/$20K first year depending on airframe and experience. $40 per hour. $1.95 per diem
Endeavor - $23K per year for everyone. $30 per hour. $1.70 per diem. Every hour over 85 is 150%.
I'm confused.
I've normally known "movement" to be based on growth, attrition, or any combination thereof.
Clearly there is "movement" at PSA? After all, PSA seems to be currently offering the highest bonuses in the industry? So seats need to be filled... yes?
Is that due to growth, or attrition? Or both?
And if it is exclusively due to attrition, yet no movement in CA seats... are more FO's (than CA's) leaving the property, in which need to be filled with new FO's?
I've normally known "movement" to be based on growth, attrition, or any combination thereof.
Clearly there is "movement" at PSA? After all, PSA seems to be currently offering the highest bonuses in the industry? So seats need to be filled... yes?
Is that due to growth, or attrition? Or both?
And if it is exclusively due to attrition, yet no movement in CA seats... are more FO's (than CA's) leaving the property, in which need to be filled with new FO's?
06-20-2016 | 02:18 AM
#3375
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My bad, I should have clarified as "one of the highest bonus".....
However, my point still stands (as it does for all the other regionals you mention), there is "movement".... yes?
It could be worse, Regionals could be asking applicants for 10k after a Conditional Offer. (biting my tongue)
However, my point still stands (as it does for all the other regionals you mention), there is "movement".... yes?
It could be worse, Regionals could be asking applicants for 10k after a Conditional Offer. (biting my tongue)
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06-20-2016 | 04:57 AM
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From: CRJ FO
I'm confused.
I've normally known "movement" to be based on growth, attrition, or any combination thereof.
Clearly there is "movement" at PSA? After all, PSA seems to be currently offering the highest bonuses in the industry? So seats need to be filled... yes?
Is that due to growth, or attrition? Or both?
And if it is exclusively due to attrition, yet no movement in CA seats... are more FO's (than CA's) leaving the property, in which need to be filled with new FO's?
I've normally known "movement" to be based on growth, attrition, or any combination thereof.
Clearly there is "movement" at PSA? After all, PSA seems to be currently offering the highest bonuses in the industry? So seats need to be filled... yes?
Is that due to growth, or attrition? Or both?
And if it is exclusively due to attrition, yet no movement in CA seats... are more FO's (than CA's) leaving the property, in which need to be filled with new FO's?
06-20-2016 | 06:12 AM
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The flow was never 4 years. Well back in 2014 there were a few juniors that got hired. Before the flow was in seniority order. Now flows are spending 10 years at PSA.
06-20-2016 | 06:23 AM
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If we get 150 aircraft and 1500 pilots the flow needs to be 14 to 19 per month to be effective. If we stay at 1200 pilots we need 11 to 15 per month to be effective. At 5 per month I don't even think new hires factor in the flow when they come here
06-20-2016 | 07:41 AM
#3379
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And how much is said "highest bonus"? To whom does it get paid?
PSA - $15K first year. $10K second year. $25 per hour. $1.75 per diem.
Republic - $7.5K/$15K/$20K first year depending on airframe and experience. $40 per hour. $1.95 per diem
Endeavor - $23K per year for everyone. $30 per hour. $1.70 per diem. Every hour over 85 is 150%.
PSA - $15K first year. $10K second year. $25 per hour. $1.75 per diem.
Republic - $7.5K/$15K/$20K first year depending on airframe and experience. $40 per hour. $1.95 per diem
Endeavor - $23K per year for everyone. $30 per hour. $1.70 per diem. Every hour over 85 is 150%.
This needs to be quoted once a week for anyone who is ever thinking about going to PSA. Or any AAG regional.
06-20-2016 | 07:44 AM
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I've heard a rumor that they expect you to pay the 15K back if you leave in the first year, and the second year has a pro-rated pay back schedule as well.
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