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05-04-2016, 02:24 PM
#2561
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
I'm more ****ed about the random benefits to other guys here. what exactly do I get? I know retention benefits were never going to happen for captains, it doesn't make sense for them to give it. I know, but what do that have to offer the guys in the right seat to make me want to wait for the flow?
The hotels thing is a bunch of garbage too me, unless the just give us all the 3k annually but I am guessing it won't happen that way, so as a non commuter that bs.
The hotels thing is a bunch of garbage too me, unless the just give us all the 3k annually but I am guessing it won't happen that way, so as a non commuter that bs.
(Besides, from the LOA that I saw at ALPA today, you will benefit from this as a non-commuter. But still, don't be such a D***.)
05-04-2016, 02:34 PM
#2564
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
Can't you be happy for others? Seriously? Don't be a D***.
(Besides, from the LOA that I saw at ALPA today, you will benefit from this as a non-commuter. But still, don't be such a D***.)
(Besides, from the LOA that I saw at ALPA today, you will benefit from this as a non-commuter. But still, don't be such a D***.)
I'm not a dick, great fo the FOs, but big picture this isn't good.
05-04-2016, 02:36 PM
#2566
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FO vs. CA interests.
If you want to flow to AA, you need the FO #'s to come ( and stay w/PSA). It is the only way you will get the monthly flow # to a better place.
A) it'll get you on the AA list sooner, ie. seniority / pay value will far exceed the value of the quarterly bonus.
B) With the current 'attrition only' type hiring, you can count on annual hold backs to Dec of whatever flow year you end up in. Jan 1 flow can be held to Dec. of that year. Huge loss of seniority/pay/longevity. There is no doubt that this will be the case moving forward without FO hiring/retention.
C) current RSV / junior CA's will see a seniority / QOL bump from new UPG meat at bottom.
There is a tangible benefit to every segment of the pilot group that should not be overlooked. Keep your eye on the ball. The MEC did the right thing for everybody here.
A) it'll get you on the AA list sooner, ie. seniority / pay value will far exceed the value of the quarterly bonus.
B) With the current 'attrition only' type hiring, you can count on annual hold backs to Dec of whatever flow year you end up in. Jan 1 flow can be held to Dec. of that year. Huge loss of seniority/pay/longevity. There is no doubt that this will be the case moving forward without FO hiring/retention.
C) current RSV / junior CA's will see a seniority / QOL bump from new UPG meat at bottom.
There is a tangible benefit to every segment of the pilot group that should not be overlooked. Keep your eye on the ball. The MEC did the right thing for everybody here.
05-04-2016, 02:49 PM
#2568
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,297
Originally Posted by rickshaw
If you want to flow to AA, you need the FO #'s to come ( and stay w/PSA). It is the only way you will get the monthly flow # to a better place.
A) it'll get you on the AA list sooner, ie. seniority / pay value will far exceed the value of the quarterly bonus.
B) With the current 'attrition only' type hiring, you can count on annual hold backs to Dec of whatever flow year you end up in. Jan 1 flow can be held to Dec. of that year. Huge loss of seniority/pay/longevity. There is no doubt that this will be the case moving forward without FO hiring/retention.
C) current RSV / junior CA's will see a seniority / QOL bump from new UPG meat at bottom.
There is a tangible benefit to every segment of the pilot group that should not be overlooked. Keep your eye on the ball. The MEC did the right thing for everybody here.
A) it'll get you on the AA list sooner, ie. seniority / pay value will far exceed the value of the quarterly bonus.
B) With the current 'attrition only' type hiring, you can count on annual hold backs to Dec of whatever flow year you end up in. Jan 1 flow can be held to Dec. of that year. Huge loss of seniority/pay/longevity. There is no doubt that this will be the case moving forward without FO hiring/retention.
C) current RSV / junior CA's will see a seniority / QOL bump from new UPG meat at bottom.
There is a tangible benefit to every segment of the pilot group that should not be overlooked. Keep your eye on the ball. The MEC did the right thing for everybody here.
My worry here is that it scuttled any improvements in June before we even try.
05-04-2016, 02:56 PM
#2569
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Joined APC: Feb 2012
Position: CRJ FO
Posts: 4,599
Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
My worry here is that it scuttled any improvements in June before we even try.
05-04-2016, 03:06 PM
#2570
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Joined APC: Jan 2014
Posts: 1,297
Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I think it has been made very clear that there will be no more improvements come June. Or did you hear Doug Parker and Dion Flannery say something completely different?
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