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05-04-2016, 01:46 PM
#2551
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Originally Posted by Slick111
It's not lifting *MY* morale. We just got sold-out by our own MEC. Again! And I thought this guy was going to be different.
Really?
Everyone on property just got $3000 in the form of commuter hotels.
The Captain pay was never an issue, and is on par with just about every other regional. The FO pay was what needed to be fixed.
The company does not need to/want to retain Captains. They only want to/need to retain FO's.
05-04-2016, 01:52 PM
#2553
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Originally Posted by Slick111
I haven't seen any email to that affect but if the company decides to unilaterally abrogate our contract and pay SOME pilots outside of the contact, I predict a sharp decrease in on-time performance, a sharp rise in untimely maintenance write-ups, and a lot fewer single-engine taxies.
And duty time extensions???? Forget it! Not even if it helps me and my crew to get home! I'd rather cancel the flight, stick the company with 4 more hotel rooms, and get us all some junior man pay the next day.
And duty time extensions???? Forget it! Not even if it helps me and my crew to get home! I'd rather cancel the flight, stick the company with 4 more hotel rooms, and get us all some junior man pay the next day.
Yeah that's the proper attitude. Screw everyone else because you're unhappy. Go punch a tree
05-04-2016, 01:55 PM
#2554
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
How?
Really?
Everyone on property just got $3000 in the form of commuter hotels.
The Captain pay was never an issue, and is on par with just about every other regional. The FO pay was what needed to be fixed.
The company does not need to/want to retain Captains. They only want to/need to retain FO's.
Really?
Everyone on property just got $3000 in the form of commuter hotels.
The Captain pay was never an issue, and is on par with just about every other regional. The FO pay was what needed to be fixed.
The company does not need to/want to retain Captains. They only want to/need to retain FO's.
So what if you don't commute? What exactly do I get? See what we are saying here. Captains are tossed under the bus the help FO staffing and attrition. After the horrifying displacements and garbage pay the rest of us had to live through as FOs the MEC throws a bandaid on the FO side.
I get the strategy and I am happy for the FOs, they deserve it, BUT there is a big what about the other guys here looming here.
05-04-2016, 01:58 PM
#2555
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
And other concessions from the company from what I hear. A bunch of good stuff.
I guess Envoy should have held out and asked for more, rather than taking it. I am sure it will be PSA's fault that it went down this way.
I guess Envoy should have held out and asked for more, rather than taking it. I am sure it will be PSA's fault that it went down this way.
05-04-2016, 01:59 PM
#2556
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
So what if you don't commute? What exactly do I get? See what we are saying here. Captains are tossed under the bus the help FO staffing and attrition. After the horrifying displacements and garbage pay the rest of us had to live through as FOs the MEC throws a bandaid on the FO side.
I get the strategy and I am happy for the FOs, they deserve it, BUT there is a big what about the other guys here looming here.
I get the strategy and I am happy for the FOs, they deserve it, BUT there is a big what about the other guys here looming here.
AAG would NEVER pay a retention bonus to the Captains just so the FOs could get it too. Don't be stupid.
05-04-2016, 02:00 PM
#2557
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Originally Posted by FlyyGuyy
Didn't see anything about concessions, in the email, but I did see something about displacements (again). Not sure what else the company needs on that front though.
It works both ways. Now the Union is making the company pay.
05-04-2016, 02:17 PM
#2559
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
I said that the company is giving up concessions. Not the pilot group.
It works both ways. Now the Union is making the company pay.
It works both ways. Now the Union is making the company pay.
05-04-2016, 02:21 PM
#2560
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Originally Posted by daOldMan
The Captains don't need it. There is no point in trying to retain them. If you want, you can go back to the right seat and take the bonus. Nothing is stopping you.
AAG would NEVER pay a retention bonus to the Captains just so the FOs could get it too. Don't be stupid.
AAG would NEVER pay a retention bonus to the Captains just so the FOs could get it too. Don't be stupid.
The hotels thing is a bunch of garbage too me, unless the just give us all the 3k annually but I am guessing it won't happen that way, so as a non commuter that bs.
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