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Old 07-08-2016 | 02:32 PM
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Probably the same way thousands of other 1st year FOs have. I don't know the posters exact situation, but there's also some new hire and retention bonuses out there. Depending on one's DOH some people are collecting both.
^^^^Exactly, what's different about that rate than what folks have been making for the past 20 years starting out. Seems pretty doable to me...having done it several times myself and lived just fine and within my means.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 06:51 AM
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Hey farmluv..what's happening after 2018 where u work at !!!???!!!







The game is on....
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Old 07-10-2016 | 07:07 AM
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Originally Posted by CaYaTeKbron
Hey farmluv..what's happening after 2018 where u work at !!!???!!!







The game is on....
Exactly.....

I don't have the exact dates, but my understanding is Endeavor's bonuses expire right about the time Delta starts taking delivery of the C Series. Things that make you go hmmmm......
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Old 07-10-2016 | 07:23 AM
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Hmmmm, but endeavor gives captains the bonus also, but aag the us air cheap LCC airline group won't an tee up.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 07:58 AM
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Really guys? We're gonna debate back and forth about which mainline management team got more desperate first, and which one treats us slightly worse than the other? None of them care about us, they are simply doing whatever they deem necessary to cover the current staffing crisis at the level they see it.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 08:10 AM
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I wonder when the BOD is going to vote to replace DP? He is grossly mismanaging the whole thing. There is no plan to replace the regional flying. I don't think AAG wants to for whatever reason. And I know that seems crazy because it will mean giving up a lot of market share to other airlines, but it's the only explanation that makes any sense. They aren't likely going to throw more money at the WOs until there is a literal bleeding of pilots (ala Endeavor) and by then it will be way way too late. There is a reason market analysts have been scratching their heads at what is going on with AAG... It doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make dollars.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 09:46 AM
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I wonder when the BOD is going to vote to replace DP? He is grossly mismanaging the whole thing. There is no plan to replace the regional flying. I don't think AAG wants to for whatever reason. And I know that seems crazy because it will mean giving up a lot of market share to other airlines, but it's the only explanation that makes any sense. They aren't likely going to throw more money at the WOs until there is a literal bleeding of pilots (ala Endeavor) and by then it will be way way too late. There is a reason market analysts have been scratching their heads at what is going on with AAG... It doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make dollars.
I'm wondering the same thing. AAG is profitable in spite of him not because of him.
How long can the board tolerate DP running the wholly owned staffing into the ground? Parking aiplanes at psa, 300 % open time at PDT etc, etc...
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Old 07-10-2016 | 11:22 AM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I wonder when the BOD is going to vote to replace DP? He is grossly mismanaging the whole thing. There is no plan to replace the regional flying. I don't think AAG wants to for whatever reason. And I know that seems crazy because it will mean giving up a lot of market share to other airlines, but it's the only explanation that makes any sense. They aren't likely going to throw more money at the WOs until there is a literal bleeding of pilots (ala Endeavor) and by then it will be way way too late. There is a reason market analysts have been scratching their heads at what is going on with AAG... It doesn't make sense. And if it doesn't make sense, it doesn't make dollars.
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I'm wondering the same thing. AAG is profitable in spite of him not because of him.
How long can the board tolerate DP running the wholly owned staffing into the ground? Parking aiplanes at psa, 300 % open time at PDT etc, etc...
I think that it's worth stepping back and realizing that the WO regionals are just a small part of the overall behemoth that is AAG. AAG is still making billions and profits despite the current woes of the wholly owneds.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 272922
I think that it's worth stepping back and realizing that the WO regionals are just a small part of the overall behemoth that is AAG. AAG is still making billions and profits despite the current woes of the wholly owneds.
I wasn't referring to just the WOs. DP is completely disconnected from the realities of the domestic flying market. Look at what some recent market analysis of AAG had to say.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 11:58 AM
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about a month ago, the analyst told Kirby that there profits that aag is showing are coming from only the fuel savings from the drop of oil prices and that aag has some issues. Kirby response was when the oil prices go up again so will aag profits.

bull after bull, these guys will drive this corporation in bankruptcy in a couple of years, they are hiding debt currently.
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