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Old 07-10-2016 | 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by chrisreedrules
I wasn't referring to just the WOs. DP is completely disconnected from the realities of the domestic flying market. Look at what some recent market analysis of AAG had to say.
Do you have a link for that market analysis? I'd like to check it out.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 272922
I think that it's worth stepping back and realizing that the WO regionals are just a small part of the overall behemoth that is AAG. AAG is still making billions and profits despite the current woes of the wholly owneds.

Considering AAG is planning to continue and expand the RJ model while DAL and UAL are bringing it back in house it's a BIG deal. The WOs are at least half of that Regional feed .
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Old 07-10-2016 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by stanthecaddy
Considering AAG is planning to continue and expand the RJ model while DAL and UAL are bringing it back in house it's a BIG deal. The WOs are at least half of that Regional feed .
Yup. As far as I have ever known, AAG never ever leads. They are always following Delta and United. They are hell bent on RJs. Good luck.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
Yup. As far as I have ever known, AAG never ever leads. They are always following Delta and United. They are hell bent on RJs. Good luck.
Then you haven't been around very long. AA held off against scope longer than anyone. Before bankrupcty all they had for dual class RJs were 47 CRJ700s at Eagle. Delta was the first to give up 70 seat and then 76 seat scope (also 50 seat jet scope if I remember correctly). Continental had 275 E145s for only 3 hubs and United lost the 70 seat scope in bankruptcy. AA is only hell bent on putting all their new 76 seat RJs in the system to catch up to Delta and United. After few more years AA will start to replace 50 seat flying back in house as well, its just that Delta and United are years ahead bc of when they merged and AA has a bunch of 50 seat aircraft contracts that were already in place at the time of the merger.
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Old 07-10-2016 | 07:18 PM
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Then you haven't been around very long. AA held off against scope longer than anyone. Before bankrupcty all they had for dual class RJs were 47 CRJ700s at Eagle. Delta was the first to give up 70 seat and then 76 seat scope (also 50 seat jet scope if I remember correctly). Continental had 275 E145s for only 3 hubs and United lost the 70 seat scope in bankruptcy. AA is only hell bent on putting all their new 76 seat RJs in the system to catch up to Delta and United. After few more years AA will start to replace 50 seat flying back in house as well, its just that Delta and United are years ahead bc of when they merged and AA has a bunch of 50 seat aircraft contracts that were already in place at the time of the merger.
And US Airways with their 80 seaters?
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Old 07-10-2016 | 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Dynasty22
And US Airways with their 80 sweaters?
That's a lot of sweaters.
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Old 07-12-2016 | 08:05 AM
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Looks like the SAP will be split this month between the CA's and FO's. Each will have their own 24hr period to SAP. This should hopefully help alliviate some of the headaches that come with the SAP.
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Old 07-12-2016 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by KingAirpilot90
Looks like the SAP will be split this month between the CA's and FO's. Each will have their own 24hr period to SAP. This should hopefully help alliviate some of the headaches that come with the SAP.
Wonder how many FO's are going to try to sneak on early during the CA window just to see if it works and get in an early trade or two? System crash looming.
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Old 07-12-2016 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by FourPutt
Then you haven't been around very long. AA held off against scope longer than anyone. Before bankrupcty all they had for dual class RJs were 47 CRJ700s at Eagle. Delta was the first to give up 70 seat and then 76 seat scope (also 50 seat jet scope if I remember correctly). Continental had 275 E145s for only 3 hubs and United lost the 70 seat scope in bankruptcy. AA is only hell bent on putting all their new 76 seat RJs in the system to catch up to Delta and United. After few more years AA will start to replace 50 seat flying back in house as well, its just that Delta and United are years ahead bc of when they merged and AA has a bunch of 50 seat aircraft contracts that were already in place at the time of the merger.


You can thank the APA for that show of strength against scope erosion.


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Old 07-12-2016 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by stanthecaddy
Considering AAG is planning to continue and expand the RJ model while DAL and UAL are bringing it back in house it's a BIG deal. The WOs are at least half of that Regional feed .
True but AAG is holding a sweet hand. They could throw bonuses and possible pay raises at the problem for a while. Saving money all the way even if we get to a dollar below mainline pay, they are still saving. Think of the 16 percent company contribution, et al....
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