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05-11-2016 | 05:12 AM
#2761
Living the Dream
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From: Another RJ CA
Pretty sure you read my message wrong, but I'll clarify. The C-Series order will be flown by mainline Delta pilots and the routes will replace the need for regional flights. My point being that with fewer regional flights Delta will not need to continue offering the retention bonuses to Endeavor when they expire in a year and a half. At that point, Endeavor returns to industry lowest pay rates.
05-11-2016 | 05:14 AM
#2762
Alllllll Riiighhhttttt!
Joined: Apr 2016
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From: Over Macho Grande
Pretty sure you read my message wrong, but I'll clarify. The C-Series order will be flown by mainline Delta pilots and the routes will replace the need for regional flights. My point being that with fewer regional flights Delta will not need to continue offering the retention bonuses to Endeavor when they expire in a year and a half. At that point, Endeavor returns to industry lowest pay rates.
05-11-2016 | 05:27 AM
#2763
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Feb 2007
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From: EMB145
05-11-2016 | 05:42 AM
#2764
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jul 2008
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From: Left
05-11-2016 | 06:12 AM
#2765
Line Holder
Joined: Feb 2014
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And when you take out the 23 "PER"s (pilots who have flowed to mainline but remain on PSA's seniority list), the numbers are even worse than that.
05-11-2016 | 08:24 AM
#2766
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Apr 2015
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From: Airbus FO
Its pretty bad on the FO side. Junior mans are happening quite a bit. Im on SCR but havent sat still one day in two months. Ive been on trips every single day im working. They havent tried to JM me yet though. Seems like the total numbers were in 1180's back in JAN. Now its only down to 1170's.
05-11-2016 | 08:54 AM
#2767
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Its pretty bad on the FO side. Junior mans are happening quite a bit. Im on SCR but havent sat still one day in two months. Ive been on trips every single day im working. They havent tried to JM me yet though. Seems like the total numbers were in 1180's back in JAN. Now its only down to 1170's.
And you may recall that the flow is supposed to increase by one pilot for every 62 (net) additional Captains that we add after January 1, 2016. Well, we're not even close to having an additional 62 Captains. In fact, given the attrition in the Captain ranks, our net Captains gain is right about ZERO in 2016. So I wouldn't plan on any increases in flow for a very, very, VERY long time.
05-11-2016 | 10:06 AM
#2768
Gets Weekends Off
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1170,....... minus the 23 who have flowed but remain on our seniority list. So the real number is probably in the 1150 range.
And you may recall that the flow is supposed to increase by one pilot for every 62 (net) additional Captains that we add after January 1, 2016. Well, we're not even close to having an additional 62 Captains. In fact, given the attrition in the Captain ranks, our net Captains gain is right about ZERO in 2016. So I wouldn't plan on any increases in flow for a very, very, VERY long time.
And you may recall that the flow is supposed to increase by one pilot for every 62 (net) additional Captains that we add after January 1, 2016. Well, we're not even close to having an additional 62 Captains. In fact, given the attrition in the Captain ranks, our net Captains gain is right about ZERO in 2016. So I wouldn't plan on any increases in flow for a very, very, VERY long time.
05-11-2016 | 10:34 AM
#2770
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jun 2015
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The flows CAN get up to 8. That is true. It was last June and it is still now.
The problem is that AAG screwed the pooch and did not keep up with the industry and remain competitive. They have this illusion that people will value going to a wholly owned airline for some sort of perceived stability. At the same time, however, Parker himself said that he would gladly take flying away from his wholly owned regionals if the contract carriers could do it cheaper.
At this point, I think that all of the majors have a "plan", but that plan will likely have to change every few months. The future is just too uncertain.
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