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As a rule, if you have a positive space ticket, DO NOT take the jump seat. It can bump a commuting pilot off of it. But, if it is empty anyways, talk to the captain.
Personally, I would welcome any new hire pilot that wants to learn and get better. Most all captains would.
Pretty much this.Originally Posted by PSA help
Good advice, but... if you are a new hire, and you want to observe, tell the captain the situation. If there is no one on the jumpseat, he/she will likely tell you to sit up front anyways. If there is another pilot on the jump seat, that person would prefer to be in the back anyways, so you can likely switch without getting the gate agent involved. As a rule, if you have a positive space ticket, DO NOT take the jump seat. It can bump a commuting pilot off of it. But, if it is empty anyways, talk to the captain.
Personally, I would welcome any new hire pilot that wants to learn and get better. Most all captains would.
To that I would add that I would take a JS if I were a DH if it gets a non-rev on board as well. I know one of my parents has been the beneficiary of that kind of generosity.
But to emphasize again, I'd only do that if there wasn't another jumpseater who had no other way of getting on the airplane.
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I think any impact is only speculation at this point. AirWis has not announced where its new bases will be. There was some talk of IAD and ORD. If they do end up at IAD, then there will be some competition for pilots looking to be DC based. If they pull out of DC entirely, then the other regional airlines might gain some of their pilots that want to stay based in the area.Originally Posted by Quarryman
I would imagine it would affect our ability to staff DCA. We cannot adequately staff it now as it is. Congrats to the Air Whiskey boys and girls. They've always been a great pilot group.
AirWis has a signing bonus and first year pay that is below PSA's, but they have better open time and some other perks. They still have a very long upgrade time though. Their new contract might help with that some, but I'm guessing they will still be over three years to upgrade.
When you break it down, nothing has changed...guys are going to go where they are in base or have an easy commute, that has good first year pay, quick upgrades, and good QOL.
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Only thing I would disagree with is it would vastly screw up commutes for the rest of us. But we don't own the seat it's technically the FAA's seat.
The CA has the final say who gets the JS. Not the FAA. And if it came down to a commuter vs newbie observer, sorry but the commuter gets the seat.Originally Posted by BizJet
God help their backs and legs. After a full day I bet you wouldn't be able to walk correctly, especially in a 145 jump. Only thing I would disagree with is it would vastly screw up commutes for the rest of us. But we don't own the seat it's technically the FAA's seat.
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Hopefully ALPA can take care of that. That would be a real burden for commuters which I'm guessing make up a majority of us.Originally Posted by PSA help
I have heard talks about what they are going to replace the 1500 hour rule with. One of the things that was mentioned was having new hires FO's fly a minimum of 250 hours on the jump seat and observing. It won't be loggable time, but will be a requirement if they are hired at 500 hours. The time on the jump seat will be considered "real world experience observations".
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AirWis has a signing bonus and first year pay that is below PSA's, but they have better open time and some other perks. They still have a very long upgrade time though. Their new contract might help with that some, but I'm guessing they will still be over three years to upgrade.
When you break it down, nothing has changed...guys are going to go where they are in base or have an easy commute, that has good first year pay, quick upgrades, and good QOL.
My question as to AirWis new contract with United pertains more to how American will reassign flying to its wholly-owneds and code-share partners. Will PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy absorb that lift? Or will it be distributed to other code-shares? With recruiting, staffing, and attrition issue's will this be a hit to American's feed? Will the WO's need to aquire additional airframes?Originally Posted by Tester130
I think any impact is only speculation at this point. AirWis has not announced where its new bases will be. There was some talk of IAD and ORD. If they do end up at IAD, then there will be some competition for pilots looking to be DC based. If they pull out of DC entirely, then the other regional airlines might gain some of their pilots that want to stay based in the area.AirWis has a signing bonus and first year pay that is below PSA's, but they have better open time and some other perks. They still have a very long upgrade time though. Their new contract might help with that some, but I'm guessing they will still be over three years to upgrade.
When you break it down, nothing has changed...guys are going to go where they are in base or have an easy commute, that has good first year pay, quick upgrades, and good QOL.
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PSA added 54 brand new CRJ 900's in the last 2 years, and Envoy is in the process of adding 40+ 175's. That is a lot of additional lift that has already been added, and is continuing to be added. Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
My question as to AirWis new contract with United pertains more to how American will reassign flying to its wholly-owneds and code-share partners. Will PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy absorb that lift? Or will it be distributed to other code-shares? With recruiting, staffing, and attrition issue's will this be a hit to American's feed? Will the WO's need to aquire additional airframes?
The future will depend on who can hire pilots. Right now, I think all 3 of the WO are doing well filling classes. Envoy will be able to take even more flying once they start sending additional 700's to PSA and 145's to PDT. That will hopefully mean more 175's for Envoy.
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The future will depend on who can hire pilots. Right now, I think all 3 of the WO are doing well filling classes. Envoy will be able to take even more flying once they start sending additional 700's to PSA and 145's to PDT. That will hopefully mean more 175's for Envoy.
Hopefully this also translates to more line's of flying, reduced reserve times as well as more open time with increased incentives!Originally Posted by PSA help
PSA added 54 brand new CRJ 900's in the last 2 years, and Envoy is in the process of adding 40+ 175's. That is a lot of additional lift that has already been added, and is continuing to be added. The future will depend on who can hire pilots. Right now, I think all 3 of the WO are doing well filling classes. Envoy will be able to take even more flying once they start sending additional 700's to PSA and 145's to PDT. That will hopefully mean more 175's for Envoy.
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The indications are that the WOs will absorb the flying. WOs have opened bases in the three main AirWis bases (Envoy in New York, PDT in PHY, and PSA in DCA). All three are increasing the number of planes and growing.Originally Posted by Irishblackbird
My question as to AirWis new contract with United pertains more to how American will reassign flying to its wholly-owneds and code-share partners. Will PSA, Piedmont, and Envoy absorb that lift? Or will it be distributed to other code-shares? With recruiting, staffing, and attrition issue's will this be a hit to American's feed? Will the WO's need to aquire additional airframes?
Like PSA Help said, right now, the WOs are not having problems getting new pilots in the door. So long as they are able to keep the pay competitive, upgrade times relatively low, and the QOL good, then pilots will come if you have a base that meets their needs. Having the flow as a backup if you don't get hired OTS is a nice insurance plan that no one else has.
Was looking at PSA's program for rotor to fixed, seems a lot of Envoy's. Without knowing the details yet, are there any differences that stand out between the programs? Looks like up to $23k to finish fixed wing hour requirements, provided you have the ratings. Still get a bonus with both, just a little less with PSA. Does PSA have an HR only interview like Envoy? Not that I mind an extra interview, used to the technical ones with our annual APARTs.
Only difference I've seen is that Envoy makes you use your GI bill then covers the rest as needed. PSA let's you choose wether to use it or not though I think you forego the bonus if you don't. About the interview, I have mine next week, I'll let you know...
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