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Old 11-22-2008 | 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by urahosr
Actually, I think it goes beyond a lack of vision regarding Comair. Comair only exists as an example. If you strike against Delta, we're going to get you back, and you ain't gonna like it.
Here's how I see it. Delta wants to do to us what Northwest did to mesaba. Northwest eliminated all the Avros and shrunk Mesaba's fleet down to about 49 Saabs. Mesaba then furloughed most of their pilot group. Northwest purchased Mesaba from Mair Holdings company and started growing Mesaba like crazy a couple years later with a brand new (cheaper) workforce.

Let's face it, who's going to wait around on furlough for a regional airline..most are going to find other jobs and give up their seniority. In the process they're going to get rid of all of our old, rickety, inefficient 50 seaters. Once Comair is down to a couple hundred pilots, Delta will grow us with a mostly new (therefore cheaper) pilot group.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by dbo861
Here's how I see it. Delta wants to do to us what Northwest did to mesaba. Northwest eliminated all the Avros and shrunk Mesaba's fleet down to about 49 Saabs. Mesaba then furloughed most of their pilot group. Northwest purchased Mesaba from Mair Holdings company and started growing Mesaba like crazy a couple years later with a brand new (cheaper) workforce.

Let's face it, who's going to wait around on furlough for a regional airline..most are going to find other jobs and give up their seniority. In the process they're going to get rid of all of our old, rickety, inefficient 50 seaters. Once Comair is down to a couple hundred pilots, Delta will grow us with a mostly new (therefore cheaper) pilot group.
Only if they can buy out the senior guys. Otherwise we'll still have guys on the top end of the scale.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 06:48 AM
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Did the senior Mesaba guys get a buyout?
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Old 11-22-2008 | 07:58 AM
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I don't know the relative longevity of the Mesaba pilot group dbo861, but I don't understand how the strategy employed at Mesaba during a time when pilot hiring was relatively strong at the major airline level is going to work during a time of global economic contraction.

Those who are furloughed are the cheapest labor on the property.

Those who remain are not able to find other flying jobs during a time when the economy does not support expansion. Certainly there will be a handful who will say "enough is enough" and go pursue a career that has a higher value in society, but I don't see the conditions in place for a mass exodus of pilots earning $80k or more per year at the present, or near future.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 08:06 AM
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Sweeeet!!!! Reserve windows are out, and Scheduling was kind enough to give me a four day trip starting on Christmas Eve @ 1145 with a 31 hour layover in AVP on Christmas Day. I want to see a furlough list now. Get on with it.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by irrelevant
I don't know the relative longevity of the Mesaba pilot group dbo861, but I don't understand how the strategy employed at Mesaba during a time when pilot hiring was relatively strong at the major airline level is going to work during a time of global economic contraction.

Those who are furloughed are the cheapest labor on the property.

Those who remain are not able to find other flying jobs during a time when the economy does not support expansion. Certainly there will be a handful who will say "enough is enough" and go pursue a career that has a higher value in society, but I don't see the conditions in place for a mass exodus of pilots earning $80k or more per year at the present, or near future.
Me either. If you're fortunate enough to be furloughed and looking for a decent job right now, you would especially know this is true.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 09:40 AM
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What irony! History chan has jim jones on "kool aid" anyone??
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Old 11-22-2008 | 10:09 AM
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Any other furloughees receive a certified letter from Shrinkair in today's mail? I missed the delivery, but have the notice. I wonder what they would need to send via certified mail? I'm already furloughed. It sure as hell isn't a recall. Hmmm.
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Old 11-22-2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
Any other furloughees receive a certified letter from Shrinkair in today's mail? I missed the delivery, but have the notice. I wonder what they would need to send via certified mail? I'm already furloughed. It sure as hell isn't a recall. Hmmm.
It's to let you know you will not be receiving your Honey Baked Ham this year
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Old 11-22-2008 | 10:29 AM
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I would guess it's about your health insurance.
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