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Old 12-18-2010 | 01:08 PM
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The Junior FO's are leaving in droves at this point, they might just speed up the downgrades to fill the seat...
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Old 12-18-2010 | 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Boomer
So what you're saying is 18-month upgrades at Comair? Awesome!!!

That was a good one! Wish it was that way. No, I think we have a few hundred pilots that are going nowhere but the rest of us are listening to the offers that are out there.
No matter what; we'll see a big reduction in the number of pilots currently flying the line. A lot of very skilled and qualified pilots and really good people will leave us. The question is; is the future attrition enough to offset the reduction the company has announced? We are talking big numbers here and I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out that way. My estimate is that we are losing at least 180 pilots in 2011 and a number greater than that in 2012. Top that with the 80 that already left in the last couple of months and the 70 something that are taking the buyout. They say we need 500-520 pilots when everything is set and done at the end of 2012, but I don't think that's the last word because I also hear talk about increased utilization of existing aircraft, requiring slightly more pilots.

My biggest worry right now is not if I'm going to get furloughed in a year or two, rather more worried of how much of an idea our forcasting dept have on the upcoming situation. If they are narrow minded and still think Comair is the end station for a lot of pilots, then we are in big, big trouble. I don't know how many we have still on furlough who are waiting just to come back to Comair? Officially I think the number is around 130, but what is the real number? Guess most of them have moved on with the hiring going on at the other regionals. Recruiting will not be easy should we have to go down that road. We are not the airline of choice anymore, especially not at this time, we are more a stepping stone on the way to something better for those already here, so our management better start paying attention so they don't put us in a situation where the attrition gets so high, so they can't staff the aircraft anymore. What will Daddy D do to us if that happens?
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Old 12-19-2010 | 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Glofliser
That was a good one! Wish it was that way. No, I think we have a few hundred pilots that are going nowhere but the rest of us are listening to the offers that are out there.
No matter what; we'll see a big reduction in the number of pilots currently flying the line. A lot of very skilled and qualified pilots and really good people will leave us. The question is; is the future attrition enough to offset the reduction the company has announced? We are talking big numbers here and I personally wouldn't be surprised at all if it turned out that way. My estimate is that we are losing at least 180 pilots in 2011 and a number greater than that in 2012. Top that with the 80 that already left in the last couple of months and the 70 something that are taking the buyout. They say we need 500-520 pilots when everything is set and done at the end of 2012, but I don't think that's the last word because I also hear talk about increased utilization of existing aircraft, requiring slightly more pilots.

My biggest worry right now is not if I'm going to get furloughed in a year or two, rather more worried of how much of an idea our forcasting dept have on the upcoming situation. If they are narrow minded and still think Comair is the end station for a lot of pilots, then we are in big, big trouble. I don't know how many we have still on furlough who are waiting just to come back to Comair? Officially I think the number is around 130, but what is the real number? Guess most of them have moved on with the hiring going on at the other regionals. Recruiting will not be easy should we have to go down that road. We are not the airline of choice anymore, especially not at this time, we are more a stepping stone on the way to something better for those already here, so our management better start paying attention so they don't put us in a situation where the attrition gets so high, so they can't staff the aircraft anymore. What will Daddy D do to us if that happens?
Looking at historical performance numbers, one might reasonably believe management hasn't been staffing aircraft adequately for a few years now. Delta didn't seem to care about that too much.

Now that the airline has made the decision to not report on-time statistics to the D.O.T., there's even less incentive to perform.
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Old 12-19-2010 | 09:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Glofliser
Recruiting will not be easy should we have to go down that road. We are not the airline of choice anymore, especially not at this time, we are more a stepping stone on the way to something better for those already here, so our management better start paying attention so they don't put us in a situation where the attrition gets so high, so they can't staff the aircraft anymore. What will Daddy D do to us if that happens?
You are, without a doubt, the most optimistic person I've ever encountered.
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Old 12-20-2010 | 05:02 AM
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Originally Posted by captainv
You are, without a doubt, the most optimistic person I've ever encountered.
HAHA! It takes a lot to be optimistic at Comair anymore
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Old 12-20-2010 | 05:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Lowlevel
HAHA! It takes a lot to be optimistic at Comair anymore
It does, but the only people remaining at Comair have to be optimists.
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Old 12-20-2010 | 05:57 AM
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I think forecasting anything beyond 2011 is optimistic at Comair.
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Old 12-20-2010 | 01:03 PM
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Quick w/b question. What do you do when you get one of these families on your a/c?YouTube - THE FATTIES PART 2 (OFFICAIL MOVIE)
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Old 12-20-2010 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by On Autopilot
Quick w/b question. What do you do when you get one of these families on your a/c?
Depends. Winter or summer?
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Old 12-21-2010 | 02:26 AM
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What are the new procedures for pilots and the TSA? Joking aside. If you are jumpseating, do you go through TSA with everyone else, or do you get to bypass if in uniform?
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