RU4692

Oh, I'm sure you take it.

Perhaps you could point your condescending troll posts elsewhere. Over a thousand people are losing their jobs. No need to kick sand in their face.

BARRELL RIDER

I feel so bad for the DL guys cruising this thread trying to rub salt in the wounds of Com air pilots who have no idea of how to feed their families now. I was at Com air for 10 years and only worked with great people.I am embarrassed to share the same industry as you!

skigambia

Let me first say, my most heart fealt condolences go out to all of our brothers and sisters at Comair.
Secondly, to all the people who say that they did the industry a favor by voting in yes on the latest Delta TA, you may be right in that the long term effect is a net positive, but I would like to pose this question, if the 20% raise, in addition to the improved seniority with the addition of the 717's coming on board, weren't offered would anyone have voted for this. A vote yes for this TA had nothing to do with bettering the industry, and had everything to do with bettering the individuals situation. I don't have a horse in this race, and certainly don't blame any mainline pilot who voted for, or against, this TA, but don't act like you voted for this because it was a step in the right direction for the industry, the reality is it was a step in the right direction for you.
On a second note, isn't this the time we demanded a national seniority list. Why do we continue to let our quality of life be negatively effected by the fact that we are one of the few industries that do not have parallel transfers. This should be the conversation and our future focus.
Best of luck to all that have to deal with this most unfortunate of circumstances.

evilboy

Sir you have raised some very good points with your questions in here. I whole heartedly agree with you. Had those items not been offered in the TA I'm sure then the NO vote would have been "great for the industry" also. However I do not blame those folks. In the long run, "if" they do end keeping/doing their flying and along with attrition thru retirements, it might somehow help movement. But thanks to the slick mgrs, we know how "certain" things are in this industry.
As far as a national list, one can wish. Maybe calling it something other than that might help. How about "I'd be awarded my position based on my experience level just like any other industry in the world" list?. Not sure how much more sarcastically to present it.
Btw, thanks for the condolences.

makersmarc

Re: merger fund - I understand that most of the money will be returned to EVERYONE that paid into the fund. When I say 'most' I mean some of it was used for legal consultation in consideration of our possible merger with Compass and Mesaba when all three of us were owned by dELTA.

If you contributed to this fund make sure ALPA has your correct contact information.

samballs

Biggest waste of a fund never once was it going to happen.

Red Forman

Any idea how to update my address with ALPA? Doing corporate now and no longer a member.

captainv

if nothing else, there's a contact us link on the web site.

Red Forman

Will try that. Thanks.

bcrosier

I'd say yes, since it was a bunch of TOTD Delta pilots that stupidly gave away scope years ago because flying "little jets" and turboprops was beneath them. Idiots.

Then OH got on DelTaCo's bad side by having the audacity to demand a decent contract Clearly there is a price to be paid for pretty much going it alone and having the courage to try and raise the bar in the regional industry.

The demise of OH is one of many black days in this industry since 1978 (thanks Jimmy, you @$$-reaming moron). The piloting profession as a whole is certainly not better off for this - not as long as the flying is being (or in this case, already has been) shifted to another carrier who will do it even cheaper on the backs of it's pilots.

Perhaps the senior DelTaCo pilots should apologize for (along with Unotinental) for creating the situation where this scenario was even plausible.