Comair updates?
08-18-2008 | 04:35 PM
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Just out of curiosity. When does this magical "new hire" stereotype wear off?
1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
Actually one year two months, 23 days. However that can be reduced if the pilot has acheived more than 700 hours in type, and 712 total. Unfortunately, Part 91 flights don't count toward this number, but deadheads do. (at a .75 rate, of course). If one has flown with a "2%er" more than once, in a 6 month period, they may reduce the number by 50 hours, but any top 10%er adds 5 hours per trip. If you tell the Pax in the back you are cleared for take-off instead of the tower, add 10 hours. If you tell the tower and 20 or more other planes waiting in line the pre-takeoff announcement, subtract 100 hours for providing entertainment and laughter for untold amounts of pilots and ATC! Add 200 hours if you put your call sign in it.
...I think
1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
Actually one year two months, 23 days. However that can be reduced if the pilot has acheived more than 700 hours in type, and 712 total. Unfortunately, Part 91 flights don't count toward this number, but deadheads do. (at a .75 rate, of course). If one has flown with a "2%er" more than once, in a 6 month period, they may reduce the number by 50 hours, but any top 10%er adds 5 hours per trip. If you tell the Pax in the back you are cleared for take-off instead of the tower, add 10 hours. If you tell the tower and 20 or more other planes waiting in line the pre-takeoff announcement, subtract 100 hours for providing entertainment and laughter for untold amounts of pilots and ATC! Add 200 hours if you put your call sign in it.
...I think
08-18-2008 | 04:51 PM
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From: CRJ2, ATR, CRJ7, E145, 737
Actually one year two months, 23 days. However that can be reduced if the pilot has acheived more than 700 hours in type, and 712 total. Unfortunately, Part 91 flights don't count toward this number, but deadheads do. (at a .75 rate, of course). If one has flown with a "2%er" more than once, in a 6 month period, they may reduce the number by 50 hours, but any top 10%er adds 5 hours per trip. If you tell the Pax in the back you are cleared for take-off instead of the tower, add 10 hours. If you tell the tower and 20 or more other planes waiting in line the pre-takeoff announcement, subtract 100 hours for providing entertainment and laughter for untold amounts of pilots and ATC! Add 200 hours if you put your call sign in it.
...I think
...I think
Funniest thing i've heard in a LONG time on APC, thank you!
I guess i'm not a new hire anymore after all!
OH, and yea, the MV is out of BWI..i did it today
08-18-2008 | 06:00 PM
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There was a time when just about everyone was on board with saving money, to the point you'd have to change your uniform between flights, and passengers were being hauled away from the aircraft in ambulances.
They still haven't shut the ac off over in the G.O., as I suggested three years ago (why should they get air conditioning...they don't even do anything that produces revenue?), and they still can't even turn the lights off when they go home at the end of the day. Meanwhile, we've taken two pay cuts, seen a significant decrease in the quality of schedules and layover accomodations, and not yet recovered to pre-bankruptcy fleet size levels.
After the sham bankruptcy I'm as concerned about Delta/Comair's financial well being as they are about mine.
Comments from management such as "You adjust your lifestyle to what we're willing to pay you." have destroyed the tremendous asset this pilot group used to be.
Last edited by irrelevant; 08-18-2008 at 06:01 PM. Reason: clarity
08-18-2008 | 06:32 PM
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After the sham bankruptcy I'm as concerned about Delta/Comair's financial well being as they are about mine.
Comments from management such as "You adjust your lifestyle to what we're willing to pay you." have destroyed the tremendous asset this pilot group used to be.
Comments from management such as "You adjust your lifestyle to what we're willing to pay you." have destroyed the tremendous asset this pilot group used to be.
08-18-2008 | 06:41 PM
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08-18-2008 | 07:00 PM
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From: 1st year pay for the 3rd time
Just out of curiosity. When does this magical "new hire" stereotype wear off?
1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
Actually one year two months, 23 days. However that can be reduced if the pilot has acheived more than 700 hours in type, and 712 total. Unfortunately, Part 91 flights don't count toward this number, but deadheads do. (at a .75 rate, of course). If one has flown with a "2%er" more than once, in a 6 month period, they may reduce the number by 50 hours, but any top 10%er adds 5 hours per trip. If you tell the Pax in the back you are cleared for take-off instead of the tower, add 10 hours. If you tell the tower and 20 or more other planes waiting in line the pre-takeoff announcement, subtract 100 hours for providing entertainment and laughter for untold amounts of pilots and ATC! Add 200 hours if you put your call sign in it.
...I think
1 year? 2 years? 5 years?
Actually one year two months, 23 days. However that can be reduced if the pilot has acheived more than 700 hours in type, and 712 total. Unfortunately, Part 91 flights don't count toward this number, but deadheads do. (at a .75 rate, of course). If one has flown with a "2%er" more than once, in a 6 month period, they may reduce the number by 50 hours, but any top 10%er adds 5 hours per trip. If you tell the Pax in the back you are cleared for take-off instead of the tower, add 10 hours. If you tell the tower and 20 or more other planes waiting in line the pre-takeoff announcement, subtract 100 hours for providing entertainment and laughter for untold amounts of pilots and ATC! Add 200 hours if you put your call sign in it.
...I think
Damn!
I'm still a new hire i'm sure!
irrelevant: I like the suggestion to cut the AC in the GO or at least turn it up a few degrees on the top 2 floors!
Lights: you mean to tell me that CVG will shut down 1 of 2 escalators to baggage claim to save energy but we leave the lights one when we leave?!?!?!
brilliant I tell ya!
08-19-2008 | 04:05 AM
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comaircrews.myfastforum.org :: View Forum - General
The quote I posted earlier was from Osmundson (then V.P. of Flight Operations, for those who've not been here long) during one of his evening visits to operations while stumping for the bankruptcy concession package. A First Officer was asking him how he was supposed to support his family if the concessions the company was working to force on us in court went into effect.
The Chow,
If you ever happen to fly into CVG at 2 a.m. take a look over at the G.O. - it's lit up like a Christmas tree.
I've also suggested they move the entire G.O. into the abandoned DHL facility, or the Mesaba hangar if it's not in use, and lease the G.O. building out as office space to a company that can actually justify such an extravagance.
This is a company that under oath during their court action against it's employees (us) told the judge they had to have concessions in order to secure growth...while during those proceedings admitting under oath they were projecting a fifty million dollar profit for that year.
They got their concessions, but there still hasn't been growth.
And no, increasing the fleet size from 120 to 130 is not growth. There will be no true growth until airframes on property exceed pre-bankruptcy levels. Until that point in time, new airframes are to be considered "recovery aircraft".
comaircrews.myfastforum.org :: View Forum - General
The quote I posted earlier was from Osmundson (then V.P. of Flight Operations, for those who've not been here long) during one of his evening visits to operations while stumping for the bankruptcy concession package. A First Officer was asking him how he was supposed to support his family if the concessions the company was working to force on us in court went into effect.
The Chow,
If you ever happen to fly into CVG at 2 a.m. take a look over at the G.O. - it's lit up like a Christmas tree.
I've also suggested they move the entire G.O. into the abandoned DHL facility, or the Mesaba hangar if it's not in use, and lease the G.O. building out as office space to a company that can actually justify such an extravagance.
This is a company that under oath during their court action against it's employees (us) told the judge they had to have concessions in order to secure growth...while during those proceedings admitting under oath they were projecting a fifty million dollar profit for that year.
They got their concessions, but there still hasn't been growth.
And no, increasing the fleet size from 120 to 130 is not growth. There will be no true growth until airframes on property exceed pre-bankruptcy levels. Until that point in time, new airframes are to be considered "recovery aircraft".
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