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Old 10-10-2008 | 06:41 PM
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ASRS - Aviation Safety Reporting System

Anyways I did it for you (took 5 seconds of research, it was on the same website posted earlier)...go ahead and read. I'll even cut and paste the passage for you here.

9.c. The filing of a report with NASA concerning an incident or occurrence involving a violation of 49 U.S.C. Subtitle VII, or the FAR is considered by FAA to be indicative of a constructive attitude. Such an attitude will tend to prevent future violations. Accordingly, although a finding of violation may be made, neither a civil penalty nor certificate suspension will be imposed if:
  • the violation was inadvertent and not deliberate;
  • the violation did not involve a criminal offense, or accident. or action under 49 U.S.C. Section 44709 which discloses a lack of qualification or competency, which is wholly excluded from this policy;
  • the person has not been found in any prior FAA enforcement action to have committed a violation of 49 U.S.C. Subtitle VII, or any regulation promulgated there for a period of 5 years prior to the date of occurrence; and
  • the person proves that, within 10 days after the violation, he or she completed and delivered or mailed a written report of the incident or occurrence to NASA under ASRS. See paragraphs 5c and 7b.

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Old 10-11-2008 | 04:37 AM
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Was anyone in the recurrent ground recently when the POI sat in? I hear that major red flags were raised when the class started talking about rest requirements and reduced rest. I guess he agrees that reduced rest is suppose to be the exception and not the rule. I encourage everyone who gets a schedule with reduced rest to email it to the FAA. I think thhey are on to something here and I think we can speed it up when we show them that regular schedules are being built with reduced rest. Reduced rest was designed to keep a flight schedule going when the last flight in is delayed due to other circumstances, not as a way to strategically build a schedule.

I also encourage you to write to your congressman on the issue.
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Old 10-11-2008 | 05:14 AM
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"subject to certain limitations"

I happened to click on your guy's thread by mistake and saw your discussion on the NASA and other reports.

I would like to add a couple of comments. First, the quote up at the top of the post isn't as cut and dry as you might think. Keep in mind that the NASA report system was created for getting information out of the general aviation community.

I can tell you from personal experience that NASA seems to change when it involves a commercial pilots mistake. I had a gear up. And while sitting in the informal conference with my attorney and 2 FAA guys, it was stated rather nonchalantly in my opinion that the NASA report didn't really apply because it was a Commercial Operation and it was over a certain dollar damage thresh hold. I was totally blasted when my lawyer stated he realized that...money down the toilet.

I was cleared but after 2 more years and no aviation work for close to 7. (Bad pilot market and a medical issue)

Now the Airline system is pointed directly for us but keep in mind that if a controller reports you before you land, you are hosed. Most protection comes from being the First Source of information. Yes you get days to report but only if your sole source. If someone reports you, well you get a few days but things can get challenging after.

The best thing is to do both reports, but don't fool yourself into thinking you made it off scott free.

Sorry for bothering you guys and I sincerely hope things improve for you. Bye
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Old 10-11-2008 | 08:45 AM
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I called the pass bureau last week and left my number for a call back requesting details on the extended benefits for us un-employed folks.... no call back. Does anybody know if these benefits continue to include buddy passes. Will call the cp office next.

Thanks.
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Old 10-11-2008 | 08:50 AM
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According to Delta's Travelnet help site, I'm assuming it was written for furloughed Delta employees but I would certainly hope it applies to us. It said the furloughed employee would get unlimited S3B on Delta, and Delta Connection flights and eligible pass riders would get unlimited S3B passes with the yield fare.

Delta Recovery Plan and Delta Workforce Program Furloughed Employees Pass

Pass Rider Eligibility Employee and these eligible pass riders of the employee while furloughed with recall rights: spouse/domestic partner or travel companion, dependents and full-time students, non-dependent children, and parents
Pass Privileges Employee - Unlimited S3B flight days (yield fare ticket not required)
Eligible Pass Riders - Unlimited S3B yield fare tickets.
Travel permitted on Delta, Delta Connection (ASA, Chautauqua, Comair, Freedom, Shuttle America and SkyWest).
NOTE: Flights operated by Chautauqua on behalf of US Air (with the US code) are not applicable. Flights operated by SkyWest on behalf of United Airlines (with the UA code) are not applicable.
S1 Emergency Travel Not applicable
Buddy Passes Eight authorizations each pass anniversary year if pass eligible on the anniversary date (furloughed with recall right).
Family Fares Not applicable
Reduced Rates Not applicable. Reduced rate tickets purchased must be used prior to your furlough date. Reduced rate tickets can be refunded following Delta’s corporate refund policy.
ZED Fares Not applicable

This was copied and pasted from a table so it didn't come out just right.
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Old 10-11-2008 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MD11
I called the pass bureau last week and left my number for a call back requesting details on the extended benefits for us un-employed folks.... no call back. Does anybody know if these benefits continue to include buddy passes. Will call the cp office next.

Thanks.
Pass Benefits Extended

The company has arranged for pilots on furlough to be granted pass travel on Comair and Delta-operated aircraft only (at S3B priority) for the duration of furlough (or until separation from company). Any eligible pass riders pay yield fare. Friends and family certificates will also be valid for the duration of furlough. Contact Corporate Travel at 800-767-2800 or [email protected] if you have questions concerning your pass privileges. (Note that this represents a change to the information originally shared on September 24 stating that furloughed pilots would have pass benefits for the first 30 days only.
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Old 10-11-2008 | 08:59 AM
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very good!!!

Thanks for the replies... now if I could only find a job
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Old 10-11-2008 | 01:03 PM
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Today is my lucky day! When I got the mail, there was a large envelope from Comair. It was another Furlough Utility Calligraphy Kit, compliments of another chief pilot, with words of encouragement attached. Wow, I feel much better today than yesterday.

Which one should I use to apply for unemployment, the blue or black one?
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Old 10-11-2008 | 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by BobSakamano
Today is my lucky day! When I got the mail, there was a large envelope from Comair. It was another Furlough Utility Calligraphy Kit, compliments of another chief pilot, with words of encouragement attached. Wow, I feel much better today than yesterday.

Which one should I use to apply for unemployment, the blue or black one?
We get a black one too? Is it wrong that I kind of like the pen...? I mean, it is a nice pen and it didn't explode in my shirt pocket at FL330. What more can I ask for in times like these?
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Old 10-11-2008 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by imasaluki
We get a black one too? Is it wrong that I kind of like the pen...? I mean, it is a nice pen and it didn't explode in my shirt pocket at FL330. What more can I ask for in times like these?
It writes upside down!!
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