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Old 05-22-2009 | 09:03 AM
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For some odd reason I decided to open up one of the Union emails and read it, now I know why I kept deleting them as soon as they arrive in my e-mail inbox....
  • As employees working within the Delta brand, we want to make sure Delta is successful. Delta should change its benefit decision to allow us to contribute to the success of the Delta brand.
Won't happen. Delta doesn't care about Comair!
  • Failure to reverse the travel benefits change will increase the burden of all commuting employees as they attempt to get to and from work. This benefit loss will create many consequences that could threaten the operational integrity of affected carriers and the Delta brand as a whole.
Yah, let's threaten Delta that if they don't change the travel benefits, our crew members won't be able to get to work!

Again, won't happen. Delta doesn't care about Comair! The letter to Anderson won't do squat.


The Unions No. 1 concern should be bringing back furloughed pilots! I find it amazing how there are F/As that got hired a year after me still have a job and I'm on the street, because we have a crappy Union!
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Old 05-22-2009 | 11:31 AM
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Flex line value negotiations to save jobs and/or bring back furloughees? Anybody else get the VARS message?

Better late than never I guess.... I still dont think the 25+ year guys will go for it.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by RU4692
Flex line value negotiations to save jobs and/or bring back furloughees? Anybody else get the VARS message?

Better late than never I guess.... I still dont think the 25+ year guys will go for it.

We'll see. As long I move closer to a recall I will be happy (Yes I want a go back, please don't flame me for it).
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Old 05-22-2009 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
We'll see. As long I move closer to a recall I will be happy (Yes I want a go back, please don't flame me for it).
I highly doubt that the senior guys would even move a finger to consider this...... after not even trying to save the last 300 from the street
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Old 05-22-2009 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by STINKY
I highly doubt that the senior guys would even move a finger to consider this...... after not even trying to save the last 300 from the street
I’m sorry to say that the senior guys will not care about saving any jobs. The will always be on the top of the seniority list and will never have to be on reserve. Look at our reserve rules; they are probably the worst in the industry. When the contract was negotiated, neither the union nor the senior guys cared about reserve rules because it did not affect them.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Spoilers
For some odd reason I decided to open up one of the Union emails and read it, now I know why I kept deleting them as soon as they arrive in my e-mail inbox....
  • As employees working within the Delta brand, we want to make sure Delta is successful. Delta should change its benefit decision to allow us to contribute to the success of the Delta brand.
Won't happen. Delta doesn't care about Comair!
  • Failure to reverse the travel benefits change will increase the burden of all commuting employees as they attempt to get to and from work. This benefit loss will create many consequences that could threaten the operational integrity of affected carriers and the Delta brand as a whole.
Yah, let's threaten Delta that if they don't change the travel benefits, our crew members won't be able to get to work!

Again, won't happen. Delta doesn't care about Comair! The letter to Anderson won't do squat.


The Unions No. 1 concern should be bringing back furloughed pilots! I find it amazing how there are F/As that got hired a year after me still have a job and I'm on the street, because we have a crappy Union!
I agree with you, sending a letter to RA would not make a difference; remember the DS vote of no confidence letter? I’m sure DS got a bonus from RA for that letter. I think the union should get the media and the FAA involved and explain to them how the new pass policy would have a negative effect on safety. PILOT FATIGUE comes to mind when a pilot spends two days trying to commute to work for a 4 day trip, spend two days to get home, get one day off and then go at it again.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 02:12 PM
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I agree that the senor guys won't go for it. But what about the guys in the middle that has to commute to JFK? I think they would take it and only have to commute maybe a couple of times a month. Also isn't June 15 the date that NG4 will announce if they will consider opening a BOS base? I can see another displacement bid if they approve that.

I think that the letter that ALPA is sending RA will backfire. I wonder if any of the other wholly owned are on aboard with this, because the letter only mention Comair not Compass or Mesaba. I can see it now, RA “We need to cut some regional flying, oh what this, a letter from Comair. Ok lets cut their flying.”
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Old 05-22-2009 | 02:21 PM
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The Comair MEC is just digging a bigger hole for everyone else at Comair as a whole! Now if you had all three MEC's onboard there might be a sliver of a chance.....well maybe not.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by mosquito
I agree that the senor guys won't go for it. But what about the guys in the middle that has to commute to JFK? I think they would take it and only have to commute maybe a couple of times a month. Also isn't June 15 the date that NG4 will announce if they will consider opening a BOS base? I can see another displacement bid if they approve that.

I think that the letter that ALPA is sending RA will backfire. I wonder if any of the other wholly owned are on aboard with this, because the letter only mention Comair not Compass or Mesaba. I can see it now, RA “We need to cut some regional flying, oh what this, a letter from Comair. Ok lets cut their flying.”
As one of those "senior" guys, I would in fact like to see them institute the flex line system again. I was arguing months ago for our MEC to keep it, even if it only helped a handful of pilots.

Bottom line, anything we can do to mitigate more pilots being forced on the street we should do.
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Old 05-22-2009 | 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by B317
As one of those "senior" guys, I would in fact like to see them institute the flex line system again. I was arguing months ago for our MEC to keep it, even if it only helped a handful of pilots.

Bottom line, anything we can do to mitigate more pilots being forced on the street we should do.
We'll then I was wrong.
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