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Old 10-13-2008 | 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
I wonder how that will affect Comair. Is it a positive or a negative after the merger?
Did you see the picture 2 pages prior to this one? I don't see ASA, Mesaba, or Pinnacle parking 40 something airplanes. Hmmm

This is also why the company probably hasn't offered a legit buy out for the senior guys. They simply don't need it. Once the merger happens they will just close Comair and get rid of a very senior pilot group. They have already written off the cost of Comair so I can't really see why they would keep us around.

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Old 10-13-2008 | 06:46 AM
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ASRS - Aviation Safety Reporting System

Anyways I did it for you (took 5 seconds of research, it was on the same website posted earlier)...go ahead and read. I'll even cut and paste the passage for you here.
Hey, you were right and I was wrong. Turns out it will protect your ticket under some certain circumstances. I hope you never have to test it like xj200 had to.

In the interest of peace, will you concede that it will not protect you if "the violation did not involve a criminal offense, or accident. or action under 49 U.S.C. Section 44709 which discloses a lack of qualification or competency, which is wholly excluded from this policy" (your post)

Look up the NTSB definitions of accident, substantial damage, and injury.
  • it is an accident if you manuever the aircraft and the flight attendant falls and breaks her hip or arm or whatever;
  • it can be an accident if you have a tail strike or a hard landing
There are lots of things that can be called accidents. And what about that violation that "discloses a lack of qualification or competency". Do you want to sit in a room for 7 months with lawyers trying to decide if your decision to abort a takeoff for a status message during a heavy rainstorm demonstrated a lack of competency?

I just think it is a shame that rather than grieve this, the MEC decided to withdraw from the program, poke DS in the eye. Wonder why we have a bunch of Comair aircraft sitting in remote? Where are the other DCI carriers planes? Oh, they are flying.
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Old 10-13-2008 | 07:44 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
Did you see the picture 2 pages prior to this one? I don't see ASA, Mesaba, or Pinnacle parking 40 something airplanes. Hmmm

This is also why the company probably hasn't offered a legit buy out for the senior guys. They simply don't need it. Once the merger happens they will just close Comair and get rid of a very senior pilot group. They have already written off the cost of Comair so I can't really see why they would keep us around.
What you are saying does not make much sense. I understand your frustration with what is going on with the company now. But why would you think that Delta would just close Comair because they are paying a few senior guys top dollars. It would be a lot less expensive for Delta to buy the senior pilots out even if they had to pay them their career potential earnings.
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Old 10-13-2008 | 07:48 AM
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Tenth Consecutive 100 Percent Completion Day Makes 45 for 2008
Streak for most consecutive days in a month continues

Thanks to three 100 percent completion days on Friday, Saturday and Sunday, Comair has a streak of 10 100 percent days. Comair now has 45 100 percent completion days for 2008, only three away from Comair President John Selvaggio's goal to double the record set in 2007.

The excellent weekend performance saw Comair achieve all of its performance goals. Weekend operational highlights include:

October 12, 2008

Your elcome JS and DAL, now please hand out our furlough notices, take our money, freeze our pay, take our routes, close our bases, demolish our concourse...and BTW, your welcome for carrying the load during the hard times of 911 when we used make money for you. But hey no hard feelings...
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Old 10-13-2008 | 07:52 AM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
What you are saying does not make much sense. I understand your frustration with what is going on with the company now. But why would you think that Delta would just close Comair because they are paying a few senior guys top dollars. It would be a lot less expensive for Delta to buy the senior pilots out even if they had to pay them their career potential earnings.
Frustration is only the result of what the reality that has happened in the last four years and continues to happen. Comair will be done by end of 2009 if not earlier in some sort or fashion, at least in the flying aspect. From fleet reduction to no growth, management tactics, route structure and scheduling, high position resignations for the last two years, writing is on the wall. Comair is a credit card debit and will be consolidated/liquidated with the merger. That is reality.
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Old 10-13-2008 | 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by p1ayn
Frustration is only the result of what the reality that has happened in the last four years and continues to happen. Comair will be done by end of 2009 if not earlier in some sort or fashion, at least in the flying aspect. From fleet reduction to no growth, management tactics, route structure and scheduling, high position resignations for the last two years, writing is on the wall. Comair is a credit card debit and will be consolidated/liquidated with the merger. That is reality.
One rumor I keep hearing is that Comair may go to an all ground services company, on the other hand, once this "Messa" stuff washes, the growth is gonna be back on. I think after the merger and rumor has, Comair is to be merged with Mesaba or be a part of the newly formed holding company.

No one knows for sure, but if they were going to pull down Comair flying, methinks more troubling indications would be developing rapidly in the company.

After all, if "Messa" had lost the injunction, in all honesty, would we be disscussing this? I think we ought to wait and see what happens after the court date, or "Messa" files bankrupcy, which is becoming more a reality day by day.
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Old 10-13-2008 | 09:21 AM
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Comair has 100% completion days bc when something happens with a flight......and the pax are all moved to another airline bc they've been waiting HOURS..... Comair Junior mans/displaces an entire crew to fly the EMPTY plane on the leg........at midnight....after a long day flying already
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Old 10-13-2008 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by flycrj200
What you are saying does not make much sense. I understand your frustration with what is going on with the company now. But why would you think that Delta would just close Comair because they are paying a few senior guys top dollars. It would be a lot less expensive for Delta to buy the senior pilots out even if they had to pay them their career potential earnings.
What part doesn't make sense? I did not say that Delta would shut Comair down based only on the fact that we have a very expensive payroll, though it is something that can be handled very easily during a restructure. Aside from the expensive guys at the top, we have expensive guys all around. 5 and 6 year FOs does not help a regional airline in terms of being competitive. Also, there will always be bad blood between Delta and Comair. Not saying that the strike shouldn't have happened, but it did and it was a major blow to Delta. I believe Delta will drive Comair into the ground out of spite if nothing else.

I also believe if there were larger plans for Comair we would have a better coach and not some crusty has been and a used car salesman. JS is simply making us a bed to take our final nap.

Youtube the independence air tribute. That's going to be us, you watch.
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by TurboDog
What part doesn't make sense? I did not say that Delta would shut Comair down based only on the fact that we have a very expensive payroll, though it is something that can be handled very easily during a restructure. Aside from the expensive guys at the top, we have expensive guys all around. 5 and 6 year FOs does not help a regional airline in terms of being competitive. Also, there will always be bad blood between Delta and Comair. Not saying that the strike shouldn't have happened, but it did and it was a major blow to Delta. I believe Delta will drive Comair into the ground out of spite if nothing else.

I also believe if there were larger plans for Comair we would have a better coach and not some crusty has been and a used car salesman. JS is simply making us a bed to take our final nap.

Youtube the independence air tribute. That's going to be us, you watch.
If you truly believe this place has no future, why not quit now?
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Old 10-13-2008 | 10:23 AM
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I just tried calling HR to talk to them about unemployment benifits. There answering machine stated, "Due to SHORT STAFFING, you may not get a call back right away."
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