You make a convincing argument. I would like to believe you but I find it hard after the December picketing debacle. I gave you and your cohorts the benefit of the doubt back then given your difficult contract plight and it turned out you were feeding us all a line of malarky. Are you sure your merger committee didn't do something behind your back that you were not aware of? Also, you seem to be actively involved with the SLI proceedings, I'd like to know if the PNCL group is trying to further their cause by using the Delta gate swap announced two days ago (well after the agreed upon April 15th closing argument deadline) in order to get the arbitrator to side with you?

 

get over myself? I'm not the one that said I was too good to accept Pinnacle (or Colgan) 1st year pay because I was formerly Mesaba. I wasn't knocking Colgan pay just stating a fact that he's no better than any 1st year guy who accepted Pinnacle 1st year pay plus if he went to Colgan or Lakes (to my knowledge they were the only ones hiring besides Pinnacle at the time of the Mesaba furlogh hiring by Pinnacle which is why I used those 2 as examples) he would have given up recall/seniority rights...make sense? Heck we had a few furloghed NWA guys that were happy to come here on 1st year pay. That is far from being on a high horse Colgan bashing....

 

If they all have taken it back, then good. Information like that is never communicated to us. They have 60 days to leave, but they are all still here. Honestly, I don't care whether they stay or go. But if lost any more pilots than what we have now, we'd be in a really big staffing crisis. When did that 60-day clock start? And please understand, I don't have hatred towards any group. I hold nothing against XJ pilots or the XJ furloughees. The only thing I'm a little disappointed about is disputing something when the disputing window already closed. We are where we are today due to cards that were dealt to us long ago. I don't have any of this figured out, hence, trying to make sense of it and see what's going on. The only piece of knowledge I do know is that Bloch wanted the MOU. That MOU spelled terms of placing XJ pilots at Pinnacle with longevity credit. It points us in the right direction.[/QUOTE]


I am really confused after reading this. Do we know for sure that the "dispute" is about the XJ furloughs. XJ mec hasn't hinted at that, and Mr. Erickson didn't mention it on his postings thus far (i think anyway) I also do not think that 9L has mentioned this. So, it seems that this is pure speculation that has been worked up into a hysterical frenzy. Unless you have solid, first hand sources on the inside, I take back that last comment.

I would argue however that based on all of your previous posts you do have a jealousy or something against the XJ pilots that are flying for 9E. We always complain how our seniority means nothing in this business, so it was nice to see at least those guys get longevity pay and benefits, they didnt leap frog anyone in seniority. We will all get our list, and if indeed they are trying to figure out what is fair for the furloughes, then let them take their time and get it right.

 

A monkey could make more than your old 1st year pay, and yes, being furloughed would of been worth it if that is what was offered.

 

When we get an official ALPA update its almost been 2 days since the last one. Where's my "Staying current"

 

Some guys did go to Colgan and they got the same deal as the ones that went to 9E, longevity pay, recall rights, and XJ DOH for SLI.

 

And why would 9E MEC want the list held until mid-June?

 

well I guess monkeys are smarter than our 1st year guys who took the job

 

Nice to be kept in the dark huh?

 

wasn't aware of that thanks....but it still doesn't mean I was knocking Colgan.