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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:31 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
If you say so. Hubs do a good job of closing ramps when lightning is around. Outstations for some reason do not. Do a Google search for lightning on aircraft ramp accidents and you will see it is very common.

When I see lightning on the field, or coming close, I don't allow boarding or fueling and ask that operations be suspended. It is what 40 years of flying experience makes obvious.
40 years? What u doing on the regional forums?
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:33 AM
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Here we go.. Seems this has been in the news lately...

Blame everyone and everything but the dumb idiot who walks around I lightning...

The object of the law suit in this case should be the ground support company. There is a lack of training and give a $hitwhen weather comes through.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Yep she is gonna drain a bit of PSA/AAG cash. Negligence.
Apparently you've never heard of insurance.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
If you say so. Hubs do a good job of closing ramps when lightning is around. Outstations for some reason do not. Do a Google search for lightning on aircraft ramp accidents and you will see it is very common.

When I see lightning on the field, or coming close, I don't allow boarding or fueling and ask that operations be suspended. It is what 40 years of flying experience makes obvious.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:40 AM
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Originally Posted by TallFlyer
Apparently you've never heard of insurance.
Negligence insurance? Ooookay.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:41 AM
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I know the station manager at CAE and called her to ask about this. There was no lightening in the area at the time, although there were cells building. The ramp was not closed, and there was no indication that there was going to be lightening in the immediate area as this was the first strike of the cell. The flight crew would likely not have known that the storm was building after they landed and were taxiing to the gate. This flight was a diversion from CLT and the airplane had to wait for over 20 minutes before getting an area to taxi to and deplane. A lot can happen in 20 minutes.

Sorry, but this was not the flight of the flight crew.

Also, there is quite a bit of debate if the passenger was actually injured. The strike was reported to be off the airport property by quite some distance. It looks to be a case of someone trying to sue for nothing. There were no visable injuries and the passengers standing directly near this person reported nothing.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
Negligence insurance? Ooookay.
and it is the responsibility of the gate agent and ground crew/station manager to close the ramp. If the pilot holds the passengers on the airplane even though the ramp is open, that is involuntary imprisonment and can get the pilot arrested.

The ground crew are at fault of this one.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:46 AM
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The news article says 2 pax were, injured, treated and taken to the hospital.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 10:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Buzzlightyear
The news article says 2 pax were, injured, treated and taken to the hospital.
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Old 06-29-2015 | 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by PilotCrusader
If you say so. Hubs do a good job of closing ramps when lightning is around. Outstations for some reason do not. Do a Google search for lightning on aircraft ramp accidents and you will see it is very common.

When I see lightning on the field, or coming close, I don't allow boarding or fueling and ask that operations be suspended. It is what 40 years of flying experience makes obvious.
I agree with everything you said in this post. But in the article you referenced, it mentions bad weather in CLT, but no metion of a lightning storm at the field where they landed. I'm sure in your 40 years of flying you have seen lightning suddenly start during ramp operations. For me, I can't place blame on the flight crew without knowing all the facts.

Sorry, should read as " the article sublime referenced"

Last edited by use2fly; 06-29-2015 at 11:16 AM. Reason: Thought I was responding to sublime
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