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Old 05-04-2015 | 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by pitchtrim
I clicked in here thinking this was a thread about anything new at AWAC.
It is a AWAC thread. Anything that happens at AWAC at AAG will have impact on WO's and vise versa.

I honestly believe Parker used Piedmont/PSA/ENVOY as a neg. tool against AWAC. He went in there with a low ball long term contract and said, "Piedmont will be doubling there fleet with ERJ's and taking over PHL and DCA if we don't get what we want. AWAC management probably laughed at the offer and Parker said okay then the extension it is. I honestly think if a long term deal would've been inked that PDT's road to getting ERJ's would've been different. Now I believe it's full steam ahead and you'll be seeing ERJ's flooding DCA and PHL in the next few years starting to take over many of AWAC routes.

It sucks and thank goodness I'll be gone before any of that happens. That's the bizz and you just never know.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:18 AM
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Win for both sides. AAG will get to fly the planes until in of 2018 when most time out and then everyone on the property today will flow to American in 3 years or less.
Serious question but do you really believe this? AA will just up and absorb PDT.

I mean how can you say this is win-win? AA by their own doing would make it more difficult to staff their regional flying, and would now being paying you mainline rates when they would otherwise being paying you regional ones. Rates which, they pressured you with closing and then dropped the flow carrot in your face, just to secure. So now they're just going say "eh screw it, we'll see y'all on Monday at class"??????

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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by l2flare
Serious question but do you really believe this? AA will just up and absorb PDT.

I mean how can you say this is win-win? AA by there own doing would make it more difficult to staff they're regional flying, and would now being paying you mainline rates when they would otherwise being paying you regional ones. Rates which, they pressured you with closing and then dropped the flow carrot in your face, just to secure. So now they're just say "eh screw it we'll see you all on Monday at class"??????

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I have not seen someone use "there/their/they're" in such an offensive manner in a long time. Your post is barely intelligible.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:26 AM
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Originally Posted by l2flare
Serious question but do you really believe this? AA will just up and absorb PDT.

I mean how can you say this is win-win? AA by there own doing would make it more difficult to staff they're regional flying, and would now being paying you mainline rates when they would otherwise being paying you regional ones. Rates which, they pressured you with closing and then dropped the flow carrot in your face, just to secure. So now they're just say "eh screw it we'll see you all on Monday at class"??????

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Yes that's pretty much it. Even when we were short on Captain guess what?? 3 had to go. Our union made sure we had some protection after looking at the PSA deal. Many believe that many future classes will consist of WO pilots only and this will be AAG's carrot to get people. One American pilot pretty much said it will be tough as hell in the future to work for American unless you're military prior or come up through one of the WO's with the flow.

Parker isn't a dummy and I think as the pilot shortage gets worse you'll see this as a mean to pull pilots from other carriers. There's already tons of pilots leaving and going to PSA. If PDT can't staff I'm sure they will hire Street Captains in the ERJ's.

Grab your popcorn should be fun.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:29 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
I have not seen someone use "there/their/they're" in such an offensive manner in a long time. Your post is barely intelligible.
Edited due to insane inability to be read. So sorry for being so "offensive" on a public forum. get a life
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:32 AM
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Originally Posted by billyho
Yes that's pretty much it. Even when we were short on Captain guess what?? 3 had to go. Our union made sure we had some protection after looking at the PSA deal. Many believe that many future classes will consist of WO pilots only and this will be AAG's carrot to get people. One American pilot pretty much said it will be tough as hell in the future to work for American unless you're military prior or come up through one of the WO's with the flow.

Parker isn't a dummy and I think as the pilot shortage gets worse you'll see this as a mean to pull pilots from other carriers. There's already tons of pilots leaving and going to PSA. If PDT can't staff I'm sure they will hire Street Captains in the ERJ's.

Grab your popcorn should be fun.
I said due you really think AA will absorb the entire operation in 2018 (outside the CBA requirement). As you had speculated in your previous post.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by l2flare
Edited due to insane inability to be read. So sorry for being so "offensive" on a public forum. get a life
I just have a hard time believing that any "professional" pilot with a college degree could possibly write such a post. It would make one think that you are not a pilot, and thus render anything that you say as irrelevant.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by CLT Guy
I just have a hard time believing that any "professional" pilot with a college degree could possibly write such a post. It would make one think that you are not a pilot, and thus render anything that you say as irrelevant.
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Old 05-04-2015 | 05:45 AM
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Old 05-04-2015 | 06:22 AM
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Originally Posted by l2flare
I said do you really think AA will absorb the entire operation in 2018 (outside the CBA requirement). As you had speculated in your previous post.
Nope, if you read the entire paragraph, what was stated is that AA will pretty soon only take non-military through the WO flow and create a low-longevity based low-cost supply for the WO airlines.
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