Yes, terrible pay. Near the bottom of the industry, eh? Most are getting better, some aren't. Envoy pays $3 an hour more. XJet about $1 per hour more. AWAC $5 more. PSA $2 more. Not quite the landslide you claim, from my POV. I agree that pay increasing is good for all. But from what I read on here, reserves at some of these will be 1-2 years. Money is not the driving force behind everything, not the motivating factor for all. Some people want/need hours more than money.

You people are silly. We are filling classes for some odd reason. Basically that equals continued growth. Yea people will leave for other regionals/ mainline, but as long as a sweaty armpit is in the door this airline will continue. I hate the contract, but it's hard to justify leaving when I just upgraded. I'm living in base and happy wife = happy life.

There are maybe 2 or 3 shops with long reserve. Every other place is flying new hires to their hearts content. XJet is voting on an extension raising first year pay to 37/40. AWAC is 28 with one of the better overall contracts out there. Envoy and PSA have flow (YMMV). All of the places you listed have much better TOTAL compensation packages/contracts than Mesa.

You guys with the attitude that money doesn't matter are hurting those of us that have to support our families. I'm glad that this is just a fun hobby to you, but I have bills to pay. It's a sad state of affairs that we keep these sweat shops in business so that you can "get yours". There are plenty of regionals that offer plenty of flying/growth potential/quick upgrades and also compensate much better.

I'm not sure why you think you can log hours any faster at Mesa than at most other regionals. Many other regionals are flying their pilots a lot more than Mesa right out of training.

Fact - Summer 2015 Mesa new hires have less than 200 hours logged. And most won't see a line for at least a few more months.

Knock yourself out: http://www.mesapilots.com/documents/contract.pdf

Contracts don't expire, they become amendable. It's a real b tch.

Nope.

Great question.

Fact - I know a June hire with over 350 today. And a 17-month pilot with over 900. Reckon it all depends on how much one wants to sit at home.

And I think a few pages back on this very thread, guys were off reserve in 2-3 months.

Ok, I totally get what you're saying and don't disagree; but XJT and Air Wisky? Two airlines that probably won't be around in 3 years? Come on.....

Not true. I'm personally going on 10 months of reserve right now with the exception of December, FWIW.

I know, I know. These were the shops he gave as examples. Would not recommend either right now.

You can't sway him with facts. Bob "knows" a guy. Smh.