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Pull up the open time awards for today (a Tuesday) and tell me with a straight face the ExTOs won't be back until 2022.

The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.
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Quote: Flying with a check airman this week. He said he is being told the rest of the EXTOs won't be back until spring 2022 at the earliest, and that there was no hiring planned for the foreseeable future. Might be a few upgrades to balance the seats but that's about it.




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So bring back the captains and pay FOs to sit at home, and pay premium?

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Quote: So bring back the captains and pay FOs to sit at home, and pay premium?


Whoa whoa. That gif is way out of bounds. May as well put ketchup on your well done Wagyu ribeye.
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Quote: Pull up the open time awards for today (a Tuesday) and tell me with a straight face the ExTOs won't be back until 2022.

The only reason everyone isn't back RIGHT NOW is training capacity (and the FO/CA imbalance to some degree). They forced people back and then can't even training them until the following month. Watch what they do, not what they say.

Yeah. Exactly. A Tuesday in mid May before summer vacation starts. This summer is going to be insane.
As soon as those ExTO recalls can get trained, they will be on the line. The company is paying 400 something guys to do their mil jobs/vacation while simultaneously paying premium for almost every single open time award. I am not an accountant, but that's a lot of money.
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As somebody who used to oversee all of the check airmen at an airline, there is not a single non-management check airman in the country who has any additional information than what is being said to recurrent/new hire classes or what is being deduced by publicly available information I.e. Recall notices and vacancy notices.
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Quote: Flying with a check airman this week. He said he is being told the rest of the EXTOs won't be back until spring 2022 at the earliest, and that there was no hiring planned for the foreseeable future. Might be a few upgrades to balance the seats but that's about it.




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That’s making me drool
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That’s making me barf. You and whoever is responsible for that evil snuff film should be forced to eat tofu for your crime.
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Quote: That’s making me barf. You and whoever is responsible for that evil snuff film should be forced to eat tofu for your crime.

Agreed.

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Quote: The company is paying 400 something guys to do their mil jobs/vacation while simultaneously paying premium for almost every single open time award. I am not an accountant, but that's a lot of money.
What would have been a LOT of money is if those pilots had NOT volunteered for a paycut.

Then the company would have paid them 88 TFP a month to sit at home on reserve from September through April.

The quarterly financial reports laid it out, the savings was in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
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Quote: The quarterly financial reports laid it out, the savings was in the hundreds of millions of dollars.
The poster isn't saying anything negative about ExTO pilots. Just pointing out the irony of paying almost all open time at premium while also paying people to sit at home. We all know that's the one thing management hates around here so if their hands weren't tied by training capacity, those pilots would be on the line.

Should be interesting see how our most junior pilots feel after Xmas WARN notices followed by a summer of JA.
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