We are filing classes, flying is increasing, we are some of the highest paid regional pilots. Where is the bleeding?

Same pay for 1 year. Flow is an illusion. Earn your job.

I'm going to be near the front of those benefiting from the new bonus, starting in Dec. While I wish it included everyone, like most of you have said, attracting more below you is also an added bonus. I bet it keeps getting better too, the race to attract newbies/135/91/previous121 guys like myself is in full swing, good for all! Looking forward to flying with all of you!

Couldn't agree more.

I know this, you know this. But the pilots being hired now are like undecided voters. They are mostly University flight instructors that only hear the word flow.


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Who cares!

Pilots are getting paid what they are worth! We have worked so hard for this.

Now let's make is precedent with rates of pay.

Ah yes the infallible, unbreakable flow. QOL, pay, upgrade. From what I gather, anyone here needn't look too far for an example of how sure of a thing those flows are. Does it help with recruiting? Sure. Does it automatically make one place better than another? Unless you're getting a mainline seniority number on your first day of indoc, or they're willing to etch that agreement in granite, keep it. Look at the number of AA retirements, if they flow one of their regionals into oblivion in the name of maintaining the flow, I'll gladly say I was dead wrong.


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Flow isnt an illusion. I have quite a few friends who are mainline now having gone thru the flow.

Yes, and I'm sure there are more things to come that benefit the whole group. Plus, the newbies are guaranteed a hitch in NYC. Here's some money for their troubles until they can upgrade. As for the others, upgrade will come quickly since we can hire.

Speaking of new hires, anybody know how many were in class today?


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I'm happy for you. I'm glad your first year won't be financially painful. This is generally how things ought to be. Its so much easier to recommend people come into this industry now.