Originally Posted by disillusioned

Then maybe we have had some people start class then need to defer or something. WW hung out at the bottom of the list for quite some time. I think it was mentioned that he had to leave for military or something. I just see some weird things at the bottom of the list and I have given up trying to figure out what is going on there. I see people bounce around down there all the time, maybe it is after class starts and the SSN seniority is put into place?? It's not like we are ever told what class numbers are.

Also, nobody ever replied if the 2nd January and February upgrade classes had been postponed or pushed back. Is there anyone in those classes that can verify?

Originally Posted by disillusioned

While SkyWest has always been one of the better regionals for looking ahead, I really feel they have lost the vision and instead focus on short term gains for long term pains. Or maybe they are brilliant and like CCB is fond or saying, are playing 3D chess while we are playing checkers.

We have too many training events going on, not enough staff for the inefficient 117 pairings, and everyone is getting hosed with their schedules. Since we don't have a contract, they can just randomly adjust the minimum reserves and make it so nobody can drop a trip and a majority of our guys are only getting 10 or 11 days off a month. And this is in the slow season. By summer we will have burned everyone out and we will get more messages from MT talking about how we need to improve our performance. Meanwhile, we will work harder than we should to fill classes or hire people that will get a type then quit and provide no relief to our overworked pilots.

Sometimes I really think they are just pushing the envelope to see how much they can get away with before we bring in a union. At this point, I think it would be better for the company and I don't think it was the threat that it has been in the past. But our apathetic pilot group will just keep watching our QOL diminish little by little until we finally realize we need protection, but we will be starting negotiations from almost zero by that point.

But at least we will save 2%....

Originally Posted by Five93H

Would the regional bean counters see this pattern and end up bypassing military guys? Worth it to pay for training if they'll be gone within a year? Not that they can be picky right now I suppose.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

SKYW, has been coasting along on their laurels for quite awhile. 117 has nothing to do with our horrid schedules, the problem lies in one office only, SS Reichsfuhrer Anita S. She has been outdated/and or outclassed since her Tandy computer was replaced with a 086 grade computer. Skywest has refused to adapt their old business model to the current times. Creating schedules from thousands of city pairs constrained by federal regulatory limits is a large problem, but if NASA can slingshot a space ship around the moon using nothing but sliderules, it is possible to schedule crews to fly airplanes. The reality is the schedules are published by the parent carrier, airframe numbers are known, crew numbers are predictable, the variables left are MX, weather and sickness calls. There are computers that can play chess at the grand master level, but SKYW can't build a semi efficient schedule? SKYW will either adapt or perish, and I don't see much adapting going on....

Originally Posted by rickair7777

I think 117 had a big impact, but also concur that Anita is leaving a LOT of efficiency on the table due to pure laziness/narrow-sightedness/incompetence in CS. They desperately need to upgrade to windows 99 and pentium processors

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

I doubt it, same risk exists for a CFI type (PSA, TSA street capt thing, CPZ, exc.) It's no secret they've been working to find people, where in the recent past it wasn't an issue. It used to be pretty rare to have an RJ newhire that had never flown anything but a Seminole and Cessna. According to one of the hiring guys this is now the norm.

Originally Posted by FaceBiter

I doubt it, same risk exists for a CFI type (PSA, TSA street capt thing, CPZ, exc.) It's no secret they've been working to find people, where in the recent past it wasn't an issue. It used to be pretty rare to have an RJ newhire that had never flown anything but a Seminole and Cessna. According to one of the hiring guys this is now the norm.

Originally Posted by rickair7777

They can't be picky, they probably consider it worthwhile to train three military guys if they get to keep one for the long term.

Also it's blatantly illegal to discriminate against vets or reservists, and every military applicant is one or both.

Originally Posted by Five93H

Most guys I know in the regionals from the flight school (2005-2010 period) all went in with only CFI time.

Originally Posted by ClickClickBoom

Sorry,
As I sit here on a 30 hr layover, this is a refusal to adapt to the changing environment, SKYW has become the immobile behemoth that thinks that they are immune to, well just about everything. The mini-fiefdom builders in SGU are blocking the entity's ability to adapt to a rapidly changing climate. SKYW is just coming to the realization that pilots are a critical resource, without them airplanes don't move, and if the planes don't move, no cash is generated. Every other position within the company is replaceable/outsourceable, from the CEO to the janitor. SKYW as a company runs its self from Thursday afternoon to Monday morning on autopilot, SGU has ceased to be hungry, and has become greedy. Hunger drives innovation, greed drives gluttony. Decide for yourself where we are at now. They can't even decide to implement an EFB program, how in the world will they ever adapt to the current environment?

Originally Posted by NVUS

Looks like its time for you to pack it all up and move on to one of those more efficiently ran regionals that has all their poop in one pile. I wish you nothing but the best out there.