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#8841
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Aug 2014
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Couldn't agree more. They are just starting to have serious staffing issues and the more we need guys the more flying we all have to do. Two years ago Chip told me that they don't want us to be around for more than three years but as of last week I was told they don't want to loose anyone. In fact I was told just the opposite, they want the senior guys to stick around. They provide the experience and time that you don't just let go. If you think it's bad now, just wait because the staffing issues are just beginning.
1- Allow us to pickup trips again on the same duty day. There is no reason we shouldn't be able to add a round trip. I'm already at the airport, let me add a round trip. They blame this on 117, but it really is because we don't have the tools to calculate this on the fly. I used to pickup stuff all the time since I was already there to pad my check. This would reduce reserve usage and free them up for other flying.
2- Proffering for reserves. Allow reserves to pickup trips and have some small control over their lives. I know that is taking control away from AS, but that is a stupid reason not to do this. Apparently, the company is trying to decide how much they need to make this happen. I think there would be a dramatic increase in flying that was covered. I know as a reserve I would much rather fly than just sit at the airport. If the first round trips are being dropped in the morning, then allow line holders to post it for pickup. There may be some reserve that wouldn't mind coming in to do that.
Funny but it sounds like the company is starting to realize that if you don't have reserve coverage, we will just call in. You can only push people so far before they just stop caring.
#8842
Prime Minister/Moderator

Joined: Jan 2006
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From: Engines Turn or People Swim
All regionals need a cadre of top-seniority lifer dogs...they provide cultural continuity and an example of maturity, and also typically help to hold the young bucks down as far as compensation goes (via the mechanism of the union or whatever). In exchange, said top dogs get comfortable six-figure salaries and good schedules, or even much higher than than $100K for sim guys.
But what you can't have is a whole bunch of mid-seniority lifers clogging up the longevity scale. SKW may well be trying to push the pain deep into the top 1000 to "encourage" attrition amongst the 1500-500 range. A consequence of the high QOL of the past, and primo western bases, is that lots of folks have stuck around here, even folks who didn't plan to.
The ideal demographic is the top 5-10 percent stays, and everybody else cycles through quickly, say about 5-6 years tops...keeps FO pay averaging in the $30s and CA pay in the $70s.
If you can't get a major job after 6-8 years, nobody in this industry wants you sticking around collecting $100K to fly an RJ...you're no longer welcome.
But what you can't have is a whole bunch of mid-seniority lifers clogging up the longevity scale. SKW may well be trying to push the pain deep into the top 1000 to "encourage" attrition amongst the 1500-500 range. A consequence of the high QOL of the past, and primo western bases, is that lots of folks have stuck around here, even folks who didn't plan to.
The ideal demographic is the top 5-10 percent stays, and everybody else cycles through quickly, say about 5-6 years tops...keeps FO pay averaging in the $30s and CA pay in the $70s.
If you can't get a major job after 6-8 years, nobody in this industry wants you sticking around collecting $100K to fly an RJ...you're no longer welcome.
#8843
The reality for me is, lifestyle. When I started 16 days off for a lineholder was reasonable. I currently haven't had more than 13 for as long as I can remember. I only bid for 700 4 day trips, that's the extent of my bidding prefs, I don't care where I go or anything else, and I still end up with CNs. I didn't get into this job for money, and won't leave for money, but I will walk away, without looking back when I am sick and tired of the lifestyle, I am almost there now. So if and when I leave it will be sudden and painless, I will call 45 minutes prior to show, per the PPM and quit, no retiring, don't want SKYW travel bennies, or anything to do with this industry when I leave it. If I never see another hub airport and the simplicity inspired mess, I will not mind one bit. If I can't get there in the car, GA plane or sailboat, I ain't goin.
#8844
^ super classy dood. Smh. Sounds like a super epic quitting story, can't wait to see it hit the press. Then your lifestyle will really be rockin..
#8845
Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
#8846
Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
#8847
I did, you said you're going to bail out on the operation 45 mins prior to show which is whats agreed to in the PPM. Sure I guess that's ok, but who cares you're quitting anyways why not just give a simple 2 weeks instead of screwing over a ton of other people? I get it btw it's really frustrating working in this industry or at this company, but it's pretty selfish to just think about yourself don't you think? No matter how bad it could get working for SKW I still wouldn't want to be a burden to my immediate co workers (Captains FO's and FA's) to each their own I guess.
#8848
Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
Urban Dictionary: smh
#8849
I did, you said you're going to bail out on the operation 45 mins prior to show which is whats agreed to in the PPM. Sure I guess that's ok, but who cares you're quitting anyways why not just give a simple 2 weeks instead of screwing over a ton of other people? I get it btw it's really frustrating working in this industry or at this company, but it's pretty selfish to just think about yourself don't you think? No matter how bad it could get working for SKW I still wouldn't want to be a burden to my immediate co workers (Captains FO's and FA's) to each their own I guess.
#8850
So because he finds your method of quitting stupid it makes him all those things you just described? Got it... I agree then SMH.
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