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Old 01-26-2015 | 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Flycameron
Couldn't agree more. They are just starting to have serious staffing issues and the more we need guys the more flying we all have to do. Two years ago Chip told me that they don't want us to be around for more than three years but as of last week I was told they don't want to loose anyone. In fact I was told just the opposite, they want the senior guys to stick around. They provide the experience and time that you don't just let go. If you think it's bad now, just wait because the staffing issues are just beginning.
Maybe it is a simple as that. The only problem is that they could resolve a lot of this by working with us. Just bumping up the minimum reserve numbers so you can't drop trips, just increases the number of sick calls as CCB alluded to. 2 things would help and seem really easy to me.
1- Allow us to pickup trips again on the same duty day. There is no reason we shouldn't be able to add a round trip. I'm already at the airport, let me add a round trip. They blame this on 117, but it really is because we don't have the tools to calculate this on the fly. I used to pickup stuff all the time since I was already there to pad my check. This would reduce reserve usage and free them up for other flying.
2- Proffering for reserves. Allow reserves to pickup trips and have some small control over their lives. I know that is taking control away from AS, but that is a stupid reason not to do this. Apparently, the company is trying to decide how much they need to make this happen. I think there would be a dramatic increase in flying that was covered. I know as a reserve I would much rather fly than just sit at the airport. If the first round trips are being dropped in the morning, then allow line holders to post it for pickup. There may be some reserve that wouldn't mind coming in to do that.

Funny but it sounds like the company is starting to realize that if you don't have reserve coverage, we will just call in. You can only push people so far before they just stop caring.
Old 01-26-2015 | 09:55 AM
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All regionals need a cadre of top-seniority lifer dogs...they provide cultural continuity and an example of maturity, and also typically help to hold the young bucks down as far as compensation goes (via the mechanism of the union or whatever). In exchange, said top dogs get comfortable six-figure salaries and good schedules, or even much higher than than $100K for sim guys.

But what you can't have is a whole bunch of mid-seniority lifers clogging up the longevity scale. SKW may well be trying to push the pain deep into the top 1000 to "encourage" attrition amongst the 1500-500 range. A consequence of the high QOL of the past, and primo western bases, is that lots of folks have stuck around here, even folks who didn't plan to.

The ideal demographic is the top 5-10 percent stays, and everybody else cycles through quickly, say about 5-6 years tops...keeps FO pay averaging in the $30s and CA pay in the $70s.

If you can't get a major job after 6-8 years, nobody in this industry wants you sticking around collecting $100K to fly an RJ...you're no longer welcome.
Old 01-26-2015 | 10:55 AM
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The reality for me is, lifestyle. When I started 16 days off for a lineholder was reasonable. I currently haven't had more than 13 for as long as I can remember. I only bid for 700 4 day trips, that's the extent of my bidding prefs, I don't care where I go or anything else, and I still end up with CNs. I didn't get into this job for money, and won't leave for money, but I will walk away, without looking back when I am sick and tired of the lifestyle, I am almost there now. So if and when I leave it will be sudden and painless, I will call 45 minutes prior to show, per the PPM and quit, no retiring, don't want SKYW travel bennies, or anything to do with this industry when I leave it. If I never see another hub airport and the simplicity inspired mess, I will not mind one bit. If I can't get there in the car, GA plane or sailboat, I ain't goin.
Old 01-26-2015 | 10:03 PM
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^ super classy dood. Smh. Sounds like a super epic quitting story, can't wait to see it hit the press. Then your lifestyle will really be rockin..
Old 01-27-2015 | 07:15 AM
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Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
Old 01-27-2015 | 09:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
Read my post, then read his, 'nuff said. You sat in class where everyone is on their best behavior. I sit for hours on end and quite often I have to listen to the, "my upgrade should have been here already" whine. Since I am not a LCA, guys let their guard down and that's when their colors show through. Need vs want, I don't need this job, and its becoming a job I don't want, when will the tipping point occur? Sooner rather than later, is my bet.
Old 01-27-2015 | 09:35 AM
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I did, you said you're going to bail out on the operation 45 mins prior to show which is whats agreed to in the PPM. Sure I guess that's ok, but who cares you're quitting anyways why not just give a simple 2 weeks instead of screwing over a ton of other people? I get it btw it's really frustrating working in this industry or at this company, but it's pretty selfish to just think about yourself don't you think? No matter how bad it could get working for SKW I still wouldn't want to be a burden to my immediate co workers (Captains FO's and FA's) to each their own I guess.
Old 01-27-2015 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
Droops and I were in new hire together, he's anything but what you just described him as. If this company makes you lash out so badly against someone who doesn't agree with you maybe you should just quit. What's the point in staying if you don't need the job anymore? If I was in the shoes you claim you're in I would have left a long time ago.
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Old 01-27-2015 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Cruz5350
I did, you said you're going to bail out on the operation 45 mins prior to show which is whats agreed to in the PPM. Sure I guess that's ok, but who cares you're quitting anyways why not just give a simple 2 weeks instead of screwing over a ton of other people? I get it btw it's really frustrating working in this industry or at this company, but it's pretty selfish to just think about yourself don't you think? No matter how bad it could get working for SKW I still wouldn't want to be a burden to my immediate co workers (Captains FO's and FA's) to each their own I guess.
Agreed upon in the PPM, nothing else needs to be said. If the company drives it to that level, so be it. If you don't want to be a burden, then don't be one. Guess you haven't hear about the guys who gave 30 days notice, and were promptly removed from CASS. Look new guy, you still have a lot to learn about this place. I only hope MT's Night of the Long Knives, campaign changes this iteration of SKYW, we are rapidly approaching the Mesa/RAH position on employee relations, and you to will be wishing for the "good old days" of when you were hired, back in '14.
Old 01-27-2015 | 09:44 AM
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So because he finds your method of quitting stupid it makes him all those things you just described? Got it... I agree then SMH.
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