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#9381
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I am just here to remind you that people hate skywest pilots, and we enjoy the fact that not unionizing is coming back to bite you in the butt. You all laughed at it and thought you were superior, but in the end you are quickly becoming the ultimate bottom feeder airline. That's all.
#9382
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
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They can't even have a picket line. They damage the entire industry, and anyone that would choose to go and fly for skywest is thumbing their nose at the entire industry. They want the benefits from the union when it suits them, but are "too good" for a union the rest of the time.
#9383
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: e145 fo
Posts: 250
Just out of curiosity what is the company doing to cause this discontent? I rarely run into Skywest crews and haven't heard of the actions the company is taking against the pilot group?
#9384
I am just here to remind you that people hate skywest pilots, and we enjoy the fact that not unionizing is coming back to bite you in the butt. You all laughed at it and thought you were superior, but in the end you are quickly becoming the ultimate bottom feeder airline. That's all.
#9385
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
As more and more main line pilots are hired from their wholly owned regionals through flows and SSP's, that should leave fewer and fewer seats for skywest pilots to be able to take. That should really slow hiring down for you guys at the majors.
#9387
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Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: 175 CA
Posts: 1,544
Look at the backlog of grievances at union regionals, how are those usually resolved? "Ok we won't do that again..." Look at how corrupt Eagles Union is, charging alcohol by the thousands of dollars. People aren't unionized at Skywest not because they care about 2% due payments (well some do I'm sure) or because they love SAPA, it's because they've seen the ineffectiveness of unions at the regional level, for example, eagle, com air, pinnacle...where were the unions when things went south? A union that represents both mainline and regional cannot in fairness equally support both pilot groups, since the goal of mainline pilots is their QOL and returning their flying or protecting their current flying, which of course has a direct impact on a regional Pilots QOL.
Unions are effective when there is transparency, leverage and unity, none of which are on offer at current unions. A Regionals livelihood is based on flexibility, because if you can't give a partner what they want, they will most certainly get it somewhere else. Think pilot shortage is a problem? Show someone a quick upgrade and they will trip do whatever it takes to get into that position, PSA and Compass aren't having trouble staffing because they got an abundance of new flying and this will continue, it's continouis cycle of flying being moved around from one regional to another.
My point is, get your time and get out if you can, no regional is ever safe.
Unions are effective when there is transparency, leverage and unity, none of which are on offer at current unions. A Regionals livelihood is based on flexibility, because if you can't give a partner what they want, they will most certainly get it somewhere else. Think pilot shortage is a problem? Show someone a quick upgrade and they will trip do whatever it takes to get into that position, PSA and Compass aren't having trouble staffing because they got an abundance of new flying and this will continue, it's continouis cycle of flying being moved around from one regional to another.
My point is, get your time and get out if you can, no regional is ever safe.
#9388
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
That is already happening. Look at how many seats are available for non-WO'd pilots at AA. And, this whole shift in dynamics is just beginning.
Skywest pilots couldn't even cross a picket line at their company because they don't even have a union that can strike.
Any suggestions on a word worse than scab? I am taking suggestions.
Skywest pilots couldn't even cross a picket line at their company because they don't even have a union that can strike.
Any suggestions on a word worse than scab? I am taking suggestions.
#9389
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Joined APC: Mar 2015
Posts: 9
Look at the backlog of grievances at union regionals, how are those usually resolved? "Ok we won't do that again..." Look at how corrupt Eagles Union is, charging alcohol by the thousands of dollars. People aren't unionized at Skywest not because they care about 2% due payments (well some do I'm sure) or because they love SAPA, it's because they've seen the ineffectiveness of unions at the regional level, for example, eagle, com air, pinnacle...where were the unions when things went south? A union that represents both mainline and regional cannot in fairness equally support both pilot groups, since the goal of mainline pilots is their QOL and returning their flying or protecting their current flying, which of course has a direct impact on a regional Pilots QOL.
Unions are effective when there is transparency, leverage and unity, none of which are on offer at current unions. A Regionals livelihood is based on flexibility, because if you can't give a partner what they want, they will most certainly get it somewhere else. Think pilot shortage is a problem? Show someone a quick upgrade and they will trip do whatever it takes to get into that position, PSA and Compass aren't having trouble staffing because they got an abundance of new flying and this will continue, it's continouis cycle of flying being moved around from one regional to another.
My point is, get your time and get out if you can, no regional is ever safe.
Unions are effective when there is transparency, leverage and unity, none of which are on offer at current unions. A Regionals livelihood is based on flexibility, because if you can't give a partner what they want, they will most certainly get it somewhere else. Think pilot shortage is a problem? Show someone a quick upgrade and they will trip do whatever it takes to get into that position, PSA and Compass aren't having trouble staffing because they got an abundance of new flying and this will continue, it's continouis cycle of flying being moved around from one regional to another.
My point is, get your time and get out if you can, no regional is ever safe.
It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
#9390
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Joined APC: Oct 2012
Position: e145 fo
Posts: 250
I understand your frustration, but a lot of those issues are directly caused by Skywest pilots and their refusal to be unionized. If we were all unionized, then we could work together to help make things better. As long as skywest pilots group is out there, it prevents all of the regionals from getting their own union.
It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
It is directly your fault if you choose to work at skywest.
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