Maybe time will tell.

I agree that there are some routes that shouldn't be RJ operated and it is a good thing that they are going mainline.

But here is the conversation that will go down eventually - as long as the 200 can be staffed:


SkyWest: "Hey, United, we want to fly a 200 at-risk from DEN to Nowhere, NE. We expect your share to be $20K per month. Did I mention it is at-risk, i.e. the $20K is pure profit going straight to your bottomline and absolutely no downside?"

Is UA gonna say: "Oh no, I will pass on that because our passengers want to travel in style (mainline) or not at all" Or will they say: "Sure go right ahead. Thanks for completing our leading network."


Either way, I am not sure what message are your trying to bring across.

Everyone who wants to move is certainly trying to do so - regardless of some mainline fleet plan.

And those people who prefer to stay for whatever personal reason are likely gonna stay regardless of "impending doom".

Did they make you a job offer?

Hopefully. But those planes have already started arriving.

20 pilots gone so far in June. 12 CA this week alone. The freeze on CRJ to E-175 transitions should cause more concern because it appears that training cannot keep up with upgrades\new hires. We have 2 CRJ bases that have 0 FO reserves (Nice job opening DTW strong out of the gate) and MSP with 3 (2%)

SkyWest may eventually shrink, but only after a couple regionals have gone out of business and their pilots have gone to mainline or here. But by parroting the company line of potential shrinkage, we only give strength to their fear tactics. We still have like 3 or 4 regionals that need to go out of business before I would worry too much.

I can hear it now as they meet with our Student Body about raising new hire pay "We don't care if you guys don't agree to raising new hire rates. Even though we can't hire enough to keep up with attrition, we will just stop hiring tomorrow if you don't agree. We don't care if we grow anymore and increase our stock and market value. It's up to you guys. Here is another golden day and we promise to work on the reserve re-write in the next 10 years"

SAPA's response "Well, we will go sell this to our pilot group and tell them this is the absolute best you guys can do. But we are going to tell them that we are very angry!! Can you throw in some negotiation training that we can use for the next round?"

It was important that new hire pay was brought inline with the rest of the longevity scale. Now we can all move on in step and spend no energy or time messing with it moving forward.

Not everyone. The regionals hire everyone whether they'd be remotely qualified for a major or not. There are a lot of regional pilots who will never get a major job because the majors are really strict about things regionals don't care about (no college degree, bad GPA, DUIs, too many checkride failures, etc). The majors aren't going to hire me which is why I came to Skywest. It's probably going to be the last regional standing and will give me the best career.

No it was not important that 1st year pay was raised and everyone else got nothing. Your delusional and part of the problem.

You did get something.... Not much, but something. You need new hires and raising the 1st year pay to be in line with others was a needed move. So YES, it was important.

This round, 2nd year and up needs to get their share.

guessing your a first year guy, well good news only 2 more years until we vote again and our pilot group caves once more. At least we got that sweet trip rig that everyone is benefitting from what a joke.

First it was the EMB guys that needed to be brought up, and we would work on everyone else after that. Then it was the new hires and everyone else after that. I would say that we need to work on QOL things for everyone that would be better than pay increases. But since anything we try (like 4:1 trip rig) will just be manipulated by SGU with no gain for the pilot group.

We need to stop trying to help a certain group and work on gains for all the pilots. Every pay package we get pits the pilot group against each other.