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Groundpointfife 03-29-2017 01:02 PM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2332012)
Done by end of summer I believe.

The remaining out of the 200 solid orders that SkyWest has?

WesternSkies 03-29-2017 01:17 PM

Little sideways there.
175 100 firm 100 options
175e2 100 firm 100 options.
I think the 10k stated they expect to end the year with 104 175s and that is all we will take unless awarded a CPA which would then exercise options.
About 10-15 left to be delivered of the 100 firm 175s.

amcnd 03-29-2017 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by Groundpointfife (Post 2332026)
The remaining out of the 200 solid orders that SkyWest has?

By Summer we will have taken 104 out of the 200 firm.. 100 firm E175 and 100 firm E2. But as you can see we will most likely take all "regular" E175's.. when the other 96 come is anyone's guess.. i would say maybe another round 2018-2020 time frame is What i would guess.. (on a side note they have 200 options)

Blackwing 03-29-2017 01:19 PM

Skywest v2.0
 
Junior upgrade just went to a June 2016 hire, DTW CRJ.

Obviously skipping those lacking the hours and/or (in my case) those not willing to commute to DTW.

amcnd 03-29-2017 01:29 PM

Yep 6/2016 hire date for DTW Captain.. will still be under 1 year when they are done ioe.. crazy

nopantsILS 03-29-2017 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by hawk21 (Post 2332012)
Done by end of summer I believe.

More along the lines of how many per partner/month.

CaptSwift 03-29-2017 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by Drums4life (Post 2330636)
ERJ guys are getting SFO



So I bid SFO and did not get awarded. There are like 15 openings that went to no one bidding, now. I take it new guys get priority for where the company wants to place them?

amcnd 03-29-2017 01:48 PM


Originally Posted by CaptSwift (Post 2332068)
So I bid SFO and did not get awarded. There are like 15 openings that went to no one bidding, now. I take it new guys get priority for where the company wants to place them?

Bids are not done yet.

StlLifer 03-29-2017 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by amcnd (Post 2332052)
Yep 6/2016 hire date for DTW Captain.. will still be under 1 year when they are done ioe.. crazy

The shortage of regional pilots did not really start until today.

Why on earth would anyone go to Mesa, TSA, Compass, Endeavor, or my beloved Gojet when the upgrade time at Skywest has fallen to 9 months?

The fast upgrade at the Mesa and Gojet bottom feeders is now out of the equation so the other factors will be more important. Range of bases, Skywest covers 60% of the country while the others have 3 or 4 bases. Fly a standup at Skywest and you get over 6 hours of pay while at Gojet you get 4 (if they actually pay you correctly). A four day trip at Gojet has a guarantee of 8 hours (Day one starting after noon and last day ending before 5 pm) while at Skywest it is 17. Bonuses at Skywest but none at Mesa, GJ, TSA, etc.

Which regionals have planes on order? TSH has the mystic MRJs that will go to TSA if they ever are built, as does skywest. Skywest has about 100 more ERJs coming. I hear 36 more are going to Skywest from a regional who can't man the ones they have on order.

At this point the other regionals have one choice, higher pay. The bonuses need to be stopped and the pay needs to be real. A regional captain for any airline should be making at least 140,000 which does still not keep up with inflation for the last 35 years.

If you really need pilots, pay them.

hawk21 03-29-2017 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by StlLifer (Post 2332081)
The shortage of regional pilots did not really start until today.

Why on earth would anyone go to Mesa, TSA, Compass, Endeavor, or my beloved Gojet when the upgrade time at Skywest has fallen to 9 months?

The fast upgrade at the Mesa and Gojet bottom feeders is now out of the equation so the other factors will be more important. Range of bases, Skywest covers 60% of the country while the others have 3 or 4 bases. Fly a standup at Skywest and you get over 6 hours of pay while at Gojet you get 4 (if they actually pay you correctly). A four day trip at Gojet has a guarantee of 8 hours (Day one starting after noon and last day ending before 5 pm) while at Skywest it is 17. Bonuses at Skywest but none at Mesa, GJ, TSA, etc.

Which regionals have planes on order? TSH has the mystic MRJs that will go to TSA if they ever are built, as does skywest. Skywest has about 100 more ERJs coming. I hear 36 more are going to Skywest from a regional who can't man the ones they have on order.

At this point the other regionals have one choice, higher pay. The bonuses need to be stopped and the pay needs to be real. A regional captain for any airline should be making at least 140,000 which does still not keep up with inflation for the last 35 years.

If you really need pilots, pay them.

Pay isn't going up until classes stop getting filled.


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