Originally Posted by Duesenflieger (Post 2332906)

Would anyone happen to know how many of the remaining one hundred E175 options will be added into our fleet after 2018? Asking for a friend....

Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2332988)

Why would we want an integrated seniority list, a lot of them are super old at ASA.

Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2332988)

That would be a disaster.

Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2332988)

We won't merge, XJT won't give up ALPA, and SGU won't accept ALPA.

Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2333192)

We don't, that's my point.



Yes.



Not quite that simple. A *successful* common carrier petition would force a seniority list integration.

Since one group is union, there would then be mandatory vote to keep or reject the union (SGU does not get a vote on that). With 99% of XJT voting yes and maybe as little 30% of SKW voting yes it would almost certainly pass.

SGU has little control over that process. What they can do is continue to do nothing which would enable a common-carrier petition. That's why XJT management, crew support, etc is kept separate. Also why it would be a bad idea to grant them longevity at SKW...in addition to the cost, it would blur the common-carrier line a bit.

Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2333210)

That's a little over my head, I'm not sure who starts or determines the end result of a common carrier petition. I was under the impression that the buck stops in SGU. If that's the case they're smart enough to end the petition under the assumption that the new pilot group would vote in ALPA as you said. Which is why I doubt it would happen.

I guess anything is possible, especially if Chip is becoming friendly to the idea of SKW pilots organizing. Something tells me that is not the case, though.

SAPA can barely organize a website, let alone a group of pilots.

Originally Posted by EFBprobs (Post 2333210)

That's a little over my head, I'm not sure who starts or determines the end result of a common carrier petition. I was under the impression that the buck stops in SGU. If that's the case they're smart enough to end the petition under the assumption that the new pilot group would vote in ALPA as you said. Which is why I doubt it would happen.

Originally Posted by KSCessnaDriver (Post 2333374)

Starts a common carrier petition, the labor group, in this case XJT ALPA. The petition would go to a court, where a judge would decide the result.

Originally Posted by Jukem88 (Post 2333723)

What death blow is currently happening on the 175??