Originally Posted by Is offline (Post 2115619)

So you're saying MP was fired for standing up for the pilot group? Please inform me and the other 1500 pilots that have asked about details.

Originally Posted by HighFlight (Post 2115624)

Not trying to argue with you, but they called me in December and told me to get 500, then they would give me an interview.

Then I got an email and a phone call last week, saying all I need now is 250. So at least two different people in the recruiting department required, as recently as December, 500 hours.

Originally Posted by Crazy Canuck (Post 2115552)

God I could go on for HOURS. How a bunch of pilots, who you can reasonably assume to be well educated and highly intelligent individuals, can listen to OO management argue that "United and Delta have told us they'll pay more for reliability so quit calling in sick!"

Originally Posted by skiK2 (Post 2115639)

He doesn't know the real story, but MP was fired for legitimate reasons.

Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2115690)

We don't have the ability to hold SGU accountable for their agreements, and when they violate our agreements with them, there are no consequences on their side.

Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2115690)

Could have been very legitimate reasons. All I'm saying is there are several others that have done things that are legitimate reasons for getting fired and have kept their jobs. And there are others who have ****ed off CP's by calling in fatigued and get fired after handwriting "experts" link them to crew room graffiti.

Fall in line or pay the consequences. We don't have the ability to hold SGU accountable for their agreements, and when they violate our agreements with them, there are no consequences on their side.

Originally Posted by WaterRooster (Post 2115696)

You mean that it is run like any other business that isn't unionized? You are describing private sector businesses. They account for the majority of the businesses in the US. I'm guessing you have never worked outside of the airlines? I'm sorry SGU doesn't have a union, it would be nice, but they don't... Trying to organize one is more work they anyone is going to take on at a regional. So you just suck it up, color between the lines, and get out so you can go to a shop with a union.

Originally Posted by disillusioned (Post 2115690)

And if we see an increase in sick calls because everyone is being worked to the max, we will just change our realiability program. Everyone is able to see the company average rising, so let's change how the information is displayed and start sending vague threatening emails to those that cross our invisible threshold. And let's do this without any input from or communication to our pilot representative group (SAPA) It's weird because when Delta wanted to change their sick policy, they had to put it in the TA and have their pilots vote it in. Amazingly enough, it didn't pass because their pilots didn't feel what they were getting in return was worth what they were giving up.



Could have been very legitimate reasons. All I'm saying is there are several others that have done things that are legitimate reasons for getting fired and have kept their jobs. And there are others who have ****ed off CP's by calling in fatigued and get fired after handwriting "experts" link them to crew room graffiti.

Fall in line or pay the consequences. We don't have the ability to hold SGU accountable for their agreements, and when they violate our agreements with them, there are no consequences on their side.

Originally Posted by skiK2 (Post 2115706)

So stop your black helicopter spaz rhetoric.

Originally Posted by joeblow (Post 2115622)

I am leaving for this reason.

Originally Posted by alaskadrifter (Post 2115521)

Is there still any gap between ground and sims?

Originally Posted by Tippy (Post 2115759)

Depends on what sim schedule you bid for.... I started the next day, other start times were staggered two days, four days.... up to like two and a half weeks.