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03-17-2015, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Yeah, I'm not too sure about auto bidding software. Not saying auto bidding software isn't being used, but why?
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Have you ever seen those ebay auto bidders. Same concept.
This was being done on Flica with JetBlue. Also SWA has had issues with some pilots doing a similar thing.
It's not that hard if someone knows how to write code.
03-17-2015, 09:30 AM
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Originally Posted by HybridSurfer
Simple. If you want to pick up, for example, BOG turns from the 20-24, you just set those parameters and as soon as the trip opens up, it automatically bids it for you.
Have you ever seen those ebay auto bidders. Same concept.
This was being done on Flica with JetBlue. Also SWA has had issues with some pilots doing a similar thing.
It's not that hard if someone knows how to write code.
Have you ever seen those ebay auto bidders. Same concept.
This was being done on Flica with JetBlue. Also SWA has had issues with some pilots doing a similar thing.
It's not that hard if someone knows how to write code.
Plus, who would auto bid a redeye to IAG?
03-17-2015, 10:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
I agree it's simple to do, however I do not believe it is against the contract, so there is no issue with it.
Plus, who would auto bid a redeye to IAG?
Plus, who would auto bid a redeye to IAG?
03-17-2015, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
Just to piggyback, I have received a FLICA alert for F4077, 30-31 March yet it's not showing up in Open Time on FLICA.
I am assuming either this trip is being hidden, or the FLICA alert is in error.
I am assuming either this trip is being hidden, or the FLICA alert is in error.
If you think it was done incorrectly, contact your reps.
I'm going to recommend a DOT log published every evening (like what we currently have with IOT).
Shouldn't be too hard to have that be an automated process published at midnight
03-17-2015, 10:52 AM
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No, I don't think there was anything wrong with it. I'm just surprised I didn't see it. I'm sure it's legit.
03-17-2015, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Lobaeux
however I do not believe it is against the contract, so there is no issue with it.
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Not chucking spears but its like Navy vs Air Force regs. One tells you what you can't do and the other tells you what you can.
I can easily argue that autobidding is an unfair advantage since its not readily available to all. Just like I'm sure bribing schedulers is not illegal per the contract but most definately frowned upon.
03-17-2015, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightcowboy
I have been at Spirit for 8 years and I can tell you the only thing consistent with Spirit, is that they get smarter in saving money in terms of payroll. I remember years ago getting a JRM 3 days in advance and each year the money making opportunities became less and less with the exception of few, aka Carparo and Haynes. The latest grievance filed just accelerated what was eventually gonna happen. No more dealing making and no more crazy credit months. The bigger Spirit gets the more investors want to know about "wages paid" and "expected wages paid". Also the chances of Spirit hiring more schedulers to accomodate pilots calling in to request trips inside of 48 hours wasn't ever gonna happen. The moral of the story is this: The bigger we get, the more we gotta adapt to change as long as our CBA is followed 100%.
03-17-2015, 05:34 PM
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Originally Posted by HybridSurfer
May not be against the contract but It's definetly against, the spirit of the contract.
Not chucking spears but its like Navy vs Air Force regs. One tells you what you can't do and the other tells you what you can.
I can easily argue that autobidding is an unfair advantage since its not readily available to all. Just like I'm sure bribing schedulers is not illegal per the contract but most definately frowned upon.
Not chucking spears but its like Navy vs Air Force regs. One tells you what you can't do and the other tells you what you can.
I can easily argue that autobidding is an unfair advantage since its not readily available to all. Just like I'm sure bribing schedulers is not illegal per the contract but most definately frowned upon.
03-17-2015, 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by NJGov
Looks like it was picked up fast by J-C.D. as CA. C.R. as the FO. Don't know when either of them were assigned.
If you think it was done incorrectly, contact your reps.
I'm going to recommend a DOT log published every evening (like what we currently have with IOT).
Shouldn't be too hard to have that be an automated process published at midnight
If you think it was done incorrectly, contact your reps.
I'm going to recommend a DOT log published every evening (like what we currently have with IOT).
Shouldn't be too hard to have that be an automated process published at midnight
03-18-2015, 07:01 AM
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Originally Posted by JasonLeonard
JCD is a great guy. He LOVES red eyes. I suspect he was on flica when it popped up. I personally have seen the refresh flash that flica does when the OT pot changes. I know to go to another base then back to my base again and the trip is right there. I've done it a few times. Not many.
I had FLICA pulled up, refreshed, received the email alert, refreshed again and never saw the trip. It was gone. I wouldn't have picked it up, but it made me curious. I don't think there's anything wrong, I don't think anyone did anything bad, I just thought it was weird I never saw it in FLICA.
I don't think it was a transition conflict bid either, the FO that picked it up isn't senior enough to get transition conflicts.
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