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12-28-2014 | 11:25 AM
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That's a big fat negative Ghostrider, I'm not trying to "justify" anything.
There was a post stating that it was "disgusting" that we don't offer benefits from Day One as if we were the ONLY carrier to be in that position.
Apparently, however, we are not; aside apparently from Delta and United, it appears in fact to actually BE industry standard not to offer benefits from Day One.
So the entire "disgusting" comment was out of whack; more like "unfortunate".
Yes, it is unfortunate that we don't offer full bennies from Day One. We have an opportunity to address that shortly.
But is it "disgusting" that we don't offer bennies from D1? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I paid my dues long before I got here. Trust me; there's few things I hate more than guys saying "well, first year sucks because you haven't paid your dues yet." Bullshiite. I've more than paid my dues. As has every single new hire walking through these doors (I'm not counting the Riddle kids. That's a different thread altogether. Sharp kids, but they haven't seen shiite yet.) And I'm not settling for a sub-standard contract when the time comes. I've learned many painful lessons along the way to get here.
But the fact of the matter is that a 90 day waiting period is in fact industry standard.
We will shortly have an opportunity to change that; we can be one of the few destination carriers to offer full bennies from D1.
Let's make it happen.
Murica!
Also, Happy Birthday Jesus!
There was a post stating that it was "disgusting" that we don't offer benefits from Day One as if we were the ONLY carrier to be in that position.
Apparently, however, we are not; aside apparently from Delta and United, it appears in fact to actually BE industry standard not to offer benefits from Day One.
So the entire "disgusting" comment was out of whack; more like "unfortunate".
Yes, it is unfortunate that we don't offer full bennies from Day One. We have an opportunity to address that shortly.
But is it "disgusting" that we don't offer bennies from D1? I think that's a bit of a stretch.
I paid my dues long before I got here. Trust me; there's few things I hate more than guys saying "well, first year sucks because you haven't paid your dues yet." Bullshiite. I've more than paid my dues. As has every single new hire walking through these doors (I'm not counting the Riddle kids. That's a different thread altogether. Sharp kids, but they haven't seen shiite yet.) And I'm not settling for a sub-standard contract when the time comes. I've learned many painful lessons along the way to get here.
But the fact of the matter is that a 90 day waiting period is in fact industry standard.
We will shortly have an opportunity to change that; we can be one of the few destination carriers to offer full bennies from D1.
Let's make it happen.
Murica!
Also, Happy Birthday Jesus!
I added the Bold above.....fair enough, disgusting was a bit harsh and perhaps not the correct word choice. So I'll go with your 'unfortunate' situation instead. Regardless, waiting 90 days is far too long. It shouldn't be any longer than by the end of the month you were hired....or 30 days worst-case-senario.
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12-28-2014 | 11:31 AM
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12-28-2014 | 02:16 PM
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Yes but as we all know it's pretty easy to not qualify for a first class medical and be perfectly healthy for other type of work. It's unlikely most of us could replace our career earnings flying by retraining ourselves for and working another career.
Also if you are social security disabled you technically cannot work and still get the LTD because you are supposed to be disabled. Your social security disability check will also offset our LTD and you will only get the difference from LTD.
Pretty much our LTD is completely useless after 2 years unless you are really messed up. It's a joke
A real plan would pay as long as you can't get a first class medical and pay up to age 65 if you never can get your medical back. It should also not be offset by any other income you make that doesn't utilize a medical certificate. That's true protection that most majors have and even some regionals. Your medical is the riskiest thing about your job.
Also if you are social security disabled you technically cannot work and still get the LTD because you are supposed to be disabled. Your social security disability check will also offset our LTD and you will only get the difference from LTD.
Pretty much our LTD is completely useless after 2 years unless you are really messed up. It's a joke
A real plan would pay as long as you can't get a first class medical and pay up to age 65 if you never can get your medical back. It should also not be offset by any other income you make that doesn't utilize a medical certificate. That's true protection that most majors have and even some regionals. Your medical is the riskiest thing about your job.
12-28-2014 | 05:05 PM
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I added the Bold above.....fair enough, disgusting was a bit harsh and perhaps not the correct word choice. So I'll go with your 'unfortunate' situation instead. Regardless, waiting 90 days is far too long. It shouldn't be any longer than by the end of the month you were hired....or 30 days worst-case-senario.
12-30-2014 | 05:27 AM
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On another note I have #1 ticket for the Dallas job fair that I will not be attending. I just want what I spent for it. PM me for details.
12-30-2014 | 10:34 AM
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FLICA question- when someone gets awarded a trip that's in open time, is there a way to see when said person submitted their bid?
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
12-30-2014 | 11:13 AM
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FLICA question- when someone gets awarded a trip that's in open time, is there a way to see when said person submitted their bid?
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
I think we have the only Automated Systems in the industry that have to be manually intervene in a daily basis. (IT, Email, Flica, Payroll, Travel, Scheduling, etc)
12-30-2014 | 01:45 PM
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FLICA question- when someone gets awarded a trip that's in open time, is there a way to see when said person submitted their bid?
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
I had a bid that was "processing" for over 30 minutes before finally getting denied; just want to make sure that the system works as advertised.
At least that's what I've been told.
12-30-2014 | 02:28 PM
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