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Old 04-26-2016 | 06:26 AM
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How many AA guys do we have left? How many are going back? All are captains and some are check airmen. I hope they all get the same class and walk out the door together.
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
How many AA guys do we have left? How many are going back? All are captains and some are check airmen. I hope they all get the same class and walk out the door together.
I know one LAS CA who left, and I know one ACY CA who left as well. I think (or heard) they all accepted recall
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot
Ual/cal and delta went 8-10 and that was during post 9-11, the housing bubble/economic crash. When the economy stabilized and profits returned even at $80-100/barrel the money came in 2012. AA/Usair was a result of the merger and a direct result of what delta and united already got in 2012. United and delta are on round two and it's only going up.

13+ I don't think so, and they aren't getting snubbed during record profits like we are. So yeah I'd say either their managements are more caring (no) or their pilot group has more influence than we seem to have. We can do what they did but we must act together.

Also, management isn't out to lunch they know what the market is. They are giving lip service to the investment community on this call. WE need to be the ones to enlighten the investment community and give them our side of the story.
The pilots had zero to do with getting a new contract...i believe all the contracts came with the mergers as will ours...
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:46 AM
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Originally Posted by abbynormallaw
Yes, ride the wave and get YOURS while you can.
That's correct I will not be at Netjets at 67 yrs old because I was a hero but I'm sure Alpa will take care of the guys who are...
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:46 AM
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The pilots had zero to do with getting a new contract...i believe all the contracts came with the mergers as will ours...
Really?, that's what your hoping? You know that means we won't have a contract for like another 5 years right?
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:49 AM
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As a side note from our "lack of contract," the Call to Action numbers for NAI is pretty dismal. Especially from LEC 109, 18% according to the email.

We can fight for the best contract around but if we allow foreign airlines to undercut prices by circumventing the rules, we will all have much larger issues in our career to worry about.
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Originally Posted by Chimpy
Really?, that's what your hoping? You know that means we won't have a contract for like another 5 years right?
Not what I am hoping for at all... I think it might just be reality...either way it might be more than 5 yrs...
Old 04-26-2016 | 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
That's correct I will not be at Netjets at 67 yrs old because I was a hero but I'm sure Alpa will take care of the guys who are...
Neither will I.. I'll be on a beach in Central America at 58, chillin brah!
Old 04-26-2016 | 07:39 AM
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Originally Posted by The Juice
As a side note from our "lack of contract," the Call to Action numbers for NAI is pretty dismal. Especially from LEC 109, 18% according to the email.

We can fight for the best contract around but if we allow foreign airlines to undercut prices by circumventing the rules, we will all have much larger issues in our career to worry about.
Same interest as for the contract , surveys etc, majority of our group doesn't care, to go along with our management.
Old 04-26-2016 | 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by IAJETCAPT
The pilots had zero to do with getting a new contract...i believe all the contracts came with the mergers as will ours...
Have you been through a merger? I have and it was two Alpa groups as well. Last check it's been 6 years and they still don't have a JCBA. No management has to magically give you a contract because of a merger.
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