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Old 08-20-2016 | 11:26 AM
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That's what I'm trying to figure out. My ability to move up, be marketable etc. So what percentage of the pilot group would you say are dorks, tools etc.. and incapable of being hired elsewhere?
Old 08-20-2016 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by stanthecaddy
That's what I'm trying to figure out. My ability to move up, be marketable etc. So what percentage of the pilot group would you say are dorks, tools etc.. and incapable of being hired elsewhere?
Anybody that is under 35 with a college degree and never been in handcuffs is probably gonna leave unless they are retarded. That leaves a pretty high percentage that is stuck here. I'd say around 50%
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:00 PM
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Originally Posted by dfwflyboy
Upgrade now in 2021. 155 planes by 2021 =2650 pilots at current staffing/plane. We are at ~1420. And plan on at least 50-80/year attrition. Prob more very soon with no contract. There will be more orders too. If we can staff
Spirit staffs at 18 pilots per plane? 9 crews per plane seems high. Is this cause of the work rules??
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by 3inthegreen
Spirit staffs at 18 pilots per plane? 9 crews per plane seems high. Is this cause of the work rules??
That and high aircraft utilization. More flights per plane = more crews
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:14 PM
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Real numbers: 10 Resigned/Retired in July and an additional 9 turned in their 2 weeks notice in the last week or 2 of July. So those will be counted in August.
Old 08-20-2016 | 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingOkra
Real numbers: 10 Resigned/Retired in July and an additional 9 turned in their 2 weeks notice in the last week or 2 of July. So those will be counted in August.


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Old 08-20-2016 | 12:53 PM
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Originally Posted by gonyon
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What's even better is, will we get a decent contract? Ya probably, but if they play the games they are playing now people will get so ****ed off even after a contract people will still split just out of spite. IMO.



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Old 08-20-2016 | 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Alphafloor
Is there really a difference? There gonna be gone in two weeks anyway. I know in the last week I have personally shaken two hands and said "good luck and have a great career". Both really great pilots and fun to fly with. It sucks We are losing a lot of good talent. Unfortunately the dorks and tools don't seem to be going anywhere,... Gee, I Wonder why?? I'm sure we're gonna have a "very interesting" group of low tier pilots remaining here in the next couple of years. High five Bob!
Back to pre 9/11 spirit. When everyone was hiring and paying big money. Those that stayed you scratch your head and ask why. Now they probably would've not fared well had they left but no one knew what was coming. I'm sure I'll have to answer those questions 10-20 years from now. "Why didn't you leave in 2016?" Making excuses when it's really just because no where else would take me.

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Old 08-20-2016 | 02:05 PM
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From Bloomberg-
"Chief Executive Officer Bob Fornaro says he’s been focused on reliability since his first day on the job six months ago. So has his board: In January, they amended executive compensation plans for 2016 to give on-time rate a 20 percent weighting in calculating managers’ bonuses, up from 10 percent."

There's a real easy way to fix this Bob.
It's called a win-win Bob. Until then, why should you get a raise and we don't? Perhaps guys will get the word out?
Old 08-20-2016 | 02:09 PM
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