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Old 06-23-2021, 03:59 PM
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Soon to be FNG. I'll be happy with whatever I get! That said, if I get to choose, and my choices are SFO or EWR, and I'm commuting from the middle of the country (OMA), which direction is better to go?
Like many, I'll probably look to progress to something closer to home (aka more desirable) as seniority allows, but in the mean time, any insight or thoughts on directional commuting? Cheers, and thanks!
I have no experience with being EWR based, but as far as SFO goes, if you want something commutable on the front end of the trip it will likely mean you will also finish your trip late. This will severely limit your options for commuting back home on the same day your trip ends considering you will be moving ahead 2 time zones. I also live in the central time zone, so if my trips didn’t end before 5pm, which was almost always the case, I was waiting 6 hours to commute home on a red eye. At least I had that option. Considering you’ll be commuting from OMA I would bet you’d find yourself commuting on a day off frequently, if not always, being based in SFO. It could be the same for EWR though for all I know.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:12 PM
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Soon to be FNG. I'll be happy with whatever I get! That said, if I get to choose, and my choices are SFO or EWR, and I'm commuting from the middle of the country (OMA), which direction is better to go?
Like many, I'll probably look to progress to something closer to home (aka more desirable) as seniority allows, but in the mean time, any insight or thoughts on directional commuting? Cheers, and thanks!
Getting to either coast from smaller Midwest cities will make for a long day and a difficult commute. The good news is that if we do actually hire like they say, you’ll be able to bid into DEN before too long. Between United and Southwest, there are 9 flights per day. Many of the United flights are mainline so you will be able to use your seniority for jumpseat and seats in the back and not roll the dice on weight restricted CRJ’s and getting bumped by a regional new hire.
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO View Post
You get “doubletown pay” ($136.05 ) for any trip out of BWI. Nothing for DCA.

But it helps offset the hotel and dinner the night before your trip, as most BWI trips start EARLY!
Thanks for the correction on DCA, I didn't realize that was excluded. I've heard this referred to as "crosstown" pay, but never "doubletown" pay. Neither term showed up on my quick ctrl+F of the UPA.

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Old 06-23-2021, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by TheFoose View Post
Soon to be FNG. I'll be happy with whatever I get! That said, if I get to choose, and my choices are SFO or EWR, and I'm commuting from the middle of the country (OMA), which direction is better to go?
Like many, I'll probably look to progress to something closer to home (aka more desirable) as seniority allows, but in the mean time, any insight or thoughts on directional commuting? Cheers, and thanks!
Welcome aboard! Been commuting out of OMA for the past 15 years. First EWR, then IAH, then SFO, now ORD, SFO again soon. EWR: There were nonstop flights, but not during pandemic. Commute to EWR is characterized by cancellation of RJ flights anytime there is a cloud within 1,000 NM of the airport. IAH: Two hour flight.....did it for 10 years. Extremely more easy than EWR. Wx is sometimes an issue, but flight cancellations rare. SFO: Prior to the pandemic, there were two non-stops from OMA and about four of us making that commute. I got first class about half of the time. Morning flight was airborne before the low ceiling delays implemented. If I was on the non-stop no issues, if I two legged through DEN the morning low ceilings caused big issues. Up to a four hour flight, which obviously makes it the longest option available. I was on the 777, so only went twice a month. As narrowbody FO, you might have to do it four times/month. DEN and ORD are easiest/most flight options available....but.....mostly flown by RJs and those guys have JS priority on their metal, so it can be problematic. My advice: bid the equipment you want, and get to the base you want down the road. 737 does transcons and Hawaii.....and is a huge growth fleet. Bus flies RJ like schedules.....and has a comfy cockpit with absolutely zero Hawaii. Have been to Hawaii around 250 times......which is precisely 250 more times than anyone on the Airbus has been. ;-)
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Old 06-23-2021, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot View Post
Thanks for the correction on DCA, I didn't realize that was excluded. I've heard this referred to as "crosstown" pay, but never "doubletown" pay. Neither term showed up on my quick ctrl+F of the UPA.

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I was just looking at my beta Pay Register and that’s how it’s showed up.
Not trying to correct you.
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Old 06-23-2021, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by BAe3100FO View Post
I was just looking at my beta Pay Register and that’s how it’s showed up.

Not trying to correct you.
Good stuff! In this covid environment are you seeing a lot of DCA/BWI right now? Been contemplating jumping over to DCA.

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Old 06-23-2021, 06:04 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot View Post
Neither term showed up on my quick ctrl+F of the UPA.
Look at UPA 4-D-4
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Old 06-23-2021, 06:09 PM
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Originally Posted by detpilot View Post
Good stuff! In this covid environment are you seeing a lot of DCA/BWI right now? Been contemplating jumping over to DCA.

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it has been changing monthly… pre pandemic nice mix of DCA/BWI… hopefully that returns and provides some stability.
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Old 06-23-2021, 08:08 PM
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Originally Posted by HuggyU2 View Post
Attention...

For any question about "how do I get speed / flexibility / seniority / QOL as a new hire, let me summarize the past 10,000 posts on this subject:

Bid the 737 to the base of your choice.
Or a 737 to the closest base... since you can lateral as soon as a slot opens up. Which won't be long.

And if you're DYING to fly the 757, just bid the Guppy anyways... do it for 1-23 months... and bid to the 757 with NO additional freeze, once you have a modicum of SA on what life at UAL is like as a Guppy FO.

Or just bid the biggest thing you can get anywhere and expect to sit reserve for a couple of years.

Your call.

But honestly... does it take this many posts over the past 5 years to understand this?

p.s. "I hate going back to TK" is a common excuse to avoid doing more training. Keep in mind that when you go from the 737 to the 757, it's about 20 days over the course of 4 weeks. It's not 4 months. And you go home on the "weekends" if you want. It's not a hardship tour.
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Old 06-24-2021, 07:49 AM
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Hi guys, I’m an ex XJT FO who left to fly a CE-525 Part 135 after XJT shutdown. My ultimate goal is to get to United.
Do you guys think I’m better off going back to flying Part 121 or do I have a shot with staying where I’m at, upgrading
and possibly becoming a LCA with my current company?
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