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Old 02-06-2018, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PA Slammer View Post
What in particular in that doc makes you think that?
The fact that we are smaller then DAL & AA by approximately 200 and 250 mainline narrowbody aircraft respectively and our projected domestic growth particularly in DEN, ORD and IAH. We shrank considerably after the merger, DAL & AA grew, we need to close the gap. That’s managements plan, will see if they are successful.
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Old 02-06-2018, 12:44 PM
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Here’s my priorities:

Not commuting
Making money
Type of flying I do (ive flown around the world multiple times and give 0.0 units of **** about airplane or type of flying as long as I get paid)

Love the fact that any of you know FettyWap! 1738!
So what I'm seeing this this. You need to be in Denver, and due to pay you've narrowed it down to UAL or SWA. One has options in Denver, albeit less options than some of their other bases, and the other has zero options as to the types of flying you'll see for the next 2 decades. Imo its an obvious choice, but you may feel differently.

Lastly, you may think you care little now, but go fly a transcon or Hawaii trip in a 737, and then do it again in a 757 and tell me you still don't care.

Doesn't swa even do Hawaii btw?
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Old 02-06-2018, 01:23 PM
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie View Post
I would guess that a pilot hired at SWA 20 years ago has (not counting divorces, investment disasters, etc) substantially more on average packed away in a retirement plan than a typical 20 year UAL pilot. Will that trend continue for the next 20 years? Who knows? While UAL is certainly much better off than it was during the lost decade, I would still say it remains more vulnerable to economic shocks and domestic / global competitive threats than SWA.
SWA did not suffer during the lost decade nearly as badly as UAL did. Between BK and the merger a UAL guy hired in late 97 through 98 took between a 7 and 10 year haircut in seniority as compared to a SWA guy.

I’ve got a neighbor who got hired at SWA two years after I got hired at UAL. He’s 15% in base as a captain in DEN. He’s been a captain at SWA for 12 years. He darn well better have more in his retirement fund than me.

We actually made captain at our respective airlines at about the same time. The difference was that I got shucked out of the left seat after 21 months and took a massive pay cut. He just got more senior and made more money every year.

Would that story be same for two guys hired at SWA and UAL today? Time will tell. It’s a total crap shoot.
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Old 02-07-2018, 10:56 AM
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You’re right. You do sound like a dick. It takes as many keystrokes to just tell me as it did to tell me to comb through thousands of posts. As you can see by how many posts I have, I don’t live on this forum like you.
Go to SWA.......
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Old 02-07-2018, 11:44 AM
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Old 02-07-2018, 12:19 PM
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With today's info all combined I would also say go to SWA for DEN , this coming from a junior UAL guy. If you had ther reason I would prob sing a dif tune.
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Old 02-07-2018, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FettyWap View Post
Can you guys give me a rough idea of when I could hold Denver if I started in March.

Also, what his the hire date of the most junior Denver Capt?

Finally, it looks like all the airlines are printing cash, but do any of you guys have apprehension about United’s financial future after what we saw in the 2000’s or are those days long gone?
Do you just HAVE to be a Captain? You can be a 787 or 777 FO at United and make $200 - $230 per hour after a couple years, but it is going to take 10+ years to make Captain at Southwest to make the same money. Also at United you'll have the option to be a Captain on something besides a 737. United also flies 757 and 767 out of DEN, and commuting to widebody isn't too difficult.
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Old 02-07-2018, 06:00 PM
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Who could possibly sit there in the right seat taking orders while making killer money and having a killer schedule. We must be in command as soon as possible QOL be damned...
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Old 02-07-2018, 07:26 PM
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For the most part, the QOL for 777 F/O's on reserve is first-rate. Eggs are often overrated.

*Try as I might, I am unable to inject any cynicism, pessimism, malaise, dyspepsia, despondency or negativity into this post. I think about it and if I can conjure up a spicy riposte, I'll hustle back and use the edit function.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:34 AM
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Go to SWA.......
Could you go instead?
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