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Old 05-07-2018, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Levigarrett
Important to note that none of those pilots have 10 yrs on property. I think in most cases you're looking at 8 yrs of time "flying the line" give or take a bit.
or, another perspective: this is the first bid in which LUAL pilots hired in 2000 have been able to bid left seat.
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Old 05-08-2018, 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by FGHJKL
or, another perspective: this is the first bid in which LUAL pilots hired in 2000 have been able to bid left seat.
Indeed. And that makes it a moment of some significance.
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Old 05-08-2018, 12:34 PM
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Originally Posted by FGHJKL
or, another perspective: this is the first bid in which LUAL pilots hired in 2000 have been able to bid left seat.
I just checked CCS and this ^^^ is not accurate. Vacancy bids back in 2016 both on the Airbus and 737 in SFO there were LUAL 2000 hires getting Captain bids. They have been in those seats for 2 years now.
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
I just checked CCS and this ^^^ is not accurate. Vacancy bids back in 2016 both on the Airbus and 737 in SFO there were LUAL 2000 hires getting Captain bids. They have been in those seats for 2 years now.
Accurate for me, but thanks for the correction...should have instead stated "LUAL pilots hired in late-2000"
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Old 05-09-2018, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by FGHJKL
Accurate for me, but thanks for the correction...should have instead stated "LUAL pilots hired in late-2000"
There would be zero pilots in any left seat at United right now that were hired in 2000 or later from either legacy if every pilot from the top of the seniority list bid the highest seat they could hold. The only reason there are pilots holding left seats junior to that is because others have decided not to.
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by svergin
There would be zero pilots in any left seat at United right now that were hired in 2000 or later from either legacy if every pilot from the top of the seniority list bid the highest seat they could hold. The only reason there are pilots holding left seats junior to that is because others have decided not to.
Dude, it's always been like that. They didn't call it the cocaine jet for nothing. I'm super happy that the 2172/1436 are finally making it into the left seat. It's about effing time.
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Old 05-09-2018, 05:35 PM
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Originally Posted by floyd
dude, it's always been like that. They didn't call it the cocaine jet for nothing. I'm super happy that the 2172/1436 are finally making it into the left seat. It's about effing time.
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this!!!!
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:12 AM
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Originally Posted by svergin
There would be zero pilots in any left seat at United right now that were hired in 2000 or later from either legacy if every pilot from the top of the seniority list bid the highest seat they could hold. The only reason there are pilots holding left seats junior to that is because others have decided not to.
And new hires would be going to the 787/777.

If given the choice of being a 787 line holder or a junior NB Cap on reserve (or even a junior line holder) I know which one I’m taking.

Some need that fourth stripe for whatever reason. I’m more interested in being home as much as possible for as much money as possible.

Someone told me once that for just about every major airline, the junior captain always seems to hover right around 70%, which seems accurate from. You could write a PHD dissertation on human behavior trying to study and quantify the bidding habits of any any given pilot group.
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Old 05-10-2018, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Grumble
And new hires would be going to the 787/777.

If given the choice of being a 787 line holder or a junior NB Cap on reserve (or even a junior line holder) I know which one I’m taking.

Some need that fourth stripe for whatever reason. I’m more interested in being home as much as possible for as much money as possible.

Someone told me once that for just about every major airline, the junior captain always seems to hover right around 70%, which seems accurate from. You could write a PHD dissertation on human behavior trying to study and quantify the bidding habits of any any given pilot group.

I definitely hear ya. I'm in that same boat, but about 55% overall company. I am switching from WBFO to NBCA because I just want a break from the time changes and whatnot. I doubt I'll make much more money if any, to be honest.

If I can't stand the heat of actually having to work for a living I'll have my bid in back to WBFO the second my freeze is over. Being a captain for the sake of being the MIC isn't really my thing. Some need that fourth stripe. For me it's just a means to an end.
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Old 05-11-2018, 03:21 AM
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Originally Posted by Spicy McHaggis
I definitely hear ya. I'm in that same boat, but about 55% overall company. I am switching from WBFO to NBCA because I just want a break from the time changes and whatnot. I doubt I'll make much more money if any, to be honest.

If I can't stand the heat of actually having to work for a living I'll have my bid in back to WBFO the second my freeze is over. Being a captain for the sake of being the MIC isn't really my thing. Some need that fourth stripe. For me it's just a means to an end.

If your going from the 777 to the 737 your pay is going up by $40 an hour, that’s 3-4,000 more a month, over $30k pay raise, good chunk of change.....
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