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09-16-2020 | 04:37 PM
#83
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Some no votes are hoping for some furloughs to open up some more open time.
09-16-2020 | 04:54 PM
#86
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No WARN notice for me, no displacement to cancel, top of the lower class. Looking at a 53% pay cut immediately if this passes. How is this a win for someone like me? None of the “gives” in this TA can justify or offset that kind of pay cut.
09-16-2020 | 04:57 PM
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From: B-737 Captain
It’s very possible I’m reading it wrong, but I am seeing a 63 hour mpg if we are above 50% of our block hours for a given bid period. 10% of 70 hrs MPG = 7, so unless we dip below 50% block hours, in which case many more than 3900 of us are f-ed, I’m seeing a 10% cut. Obviously the lines are to be slimmer than usual, but that is going to be the case either way.
if you are senior in your BES and were not displaced, I could totally understand a NO vote… If you are in the top 2/3rds and got a displacement letter, I’m having a hard time seeing how this is a net negative in pay for (the proverbial) you.
Please tell me if I’ve got that wrong. I’m trying to understand the implications for the entire group
if you are senior in your BES and were not displaced, I could totally understand a NO vote… If you are in the top 2/3rds and got a displacement letter, I’m having a hard time seeing how this is a net negative in pay for (the proverbial) you.
Please tell me if I’ve got that wrong. I’m trying to understand the implications for the entire group
https://hub.united.com/2020-09-04-un...647462326.html
09-16-2020 | 05:05 PM
#88
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Well for you, assuming you are around 3900ish since top of the lower class, the win would be having an extra 2500ish pilots below you..
09-16-2020 | 05:11 PM
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09-16-2020 | 05:12 PM
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From: WB Bunkie
You’re not reading it wrong, but we are at 40% of last year’s block hours for October, so that would be 35/52/60 MPG if implemented in October. That’s a BIG hit. And it could be a while before we see an increase.
https://hub.united.com/2020-09-04-un...647462326.html
https://hub.united.com/2020-09-04-un...647462326.html
if demand stays suppressed at under 60% levels, thus giving us the MPG‘s you stated, the double furloughees and senior bottom third guys who are very frustrated about a pay cut have a lot more to worry about than lower MPG… As an upper lower third guy, I think you’ve got to look a little further out than the next 6 to 8 months.
again, totally get it if you are a senior BES top 2/3 person. This concretely means a pay cut for you. For the rest of us… A little game-theory (if-then many scenarios three to four moves) about the future and napkin math would suggest this is the lesser of many evils
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