They are politicians. They aren’t going to give the north end of a southbound rat about you for the next three and a half years until the run up to the next election,

 

I wish we did it like France ... 6 weeks from start to finish.

 

That’s true. Dr Fauci, the person advising the PORUS was out there saying not to worry and then not to wear masks. The fact of the matter is that no one knew what was going to happen with this virus, even the WHO, who were saying that it’s not being transmitted between humans. Travel bans were put in place and the name calling began. This was the first shot fired and made this issue political. Everything done since then were decisions made in a battlefield set up by those trying to overthrow the POTUS. This wasn’t a PM of a small island nation making decisions free of the daggers being thrown at them with every word stated. And despite that, all the masks, gowns, gloves, ventilators, more and new testing methods were made by using the defense production act. And operation warp speed has four or five companies racing to come up with a vaccine and more importantly, therapeutics. Hospitals were built and manned, and two navy hospital ships deployed. Now, 8 months later, compare us to Europe, we are in the same boat, with another spike. So did they all mismanage the outbreak as well? Or is it more plausible that this is how pandemics work?

It’s sad that when you see the POTUS having good approval numbers at the beginning when he was doing the daily briefs and explaining all the government was going only to see one side looking to pounce with gotchas in order to prey to Trump’s frail ego knowing he would counterpunch. One side started the politicization and it’s unfortunate they took advantage of this simply to try to gain power.

Anyway, I think the premise of this thread is wrong. It’s not if Biden or Trump would be better for UAL or the industry as a whole. It’s whether Harris or Trump would be better.

 

That last statement is very telling. So I guess the virus gets a vote? Come on man! We all know this was politicized against the sitting president for power.

 

What you posted is true and then (wait for it), they learned and stated to wear masks and what preventable measures to take that were backed up by science. Stop using past messages and use current guidance.

 

My point was that even the scientist didn’t know. The scientist the POTUS was getting advice from. Yet the scientist don’t get any of the blame. And they shouldn’t because no one knew what was going to happen. But remember who fired the first shot here when the president was trying to make decisions to help the situation. The first thing Trump did was ban Chinese nationals from entering the country. And BIDEN fired the first shot and make it political! Come on man! Since then the Democrats aided by the media has done nothing than put the president into a position where instead of thinking about how his decisions affect lives, they take advantage of his ego knowing what happens when they poke the bear. It’s shameful. And my other point is that despite him having to make decisions in this atmosphere, unlike let’s say pick any Western European prime minister, and we are in the same position as them, with another spike. I guess they all have bad leadership and mismanaged the pandemic as well.

 

agreed
the jihadist beheadings in France are a nice touch that we should all strive for as well.
Very cosmopolitan and progressive

 

Decreasing inoculum = decreased severity of infection was known by Louis Pasteur in December 1879. If Fauci was ‘learning’ that in 2020, he was not qualified for the job.

let’s stop making excuses - they lied. And while some may try to justify that as situational ethics - we didn’t want the great unwashed to start hoarding n95 masks like they did toilet paper, did we? - the realty is that Public Health and Preventive Medicine have always depended for their effectiveness on the confidence of the public. And lying to the public damaged that confidence.

it was inexcusable.

 

The election won’t be over for weeks due to mail in ballots and the near certain lawsuits by both sides. If Biden does win, the only thing that will change with the pandemic is how it’s covered in the media.

 

...Yet our results are on par with others. My point is that a virus doesn’t care about your policy, it’s just going to run it’s course.