View Poll Results: Recall Request Submitted
NYC 005
16
35.56%
DCA 011
4
8.89%
ORD 012
1
2.22%
DEN 033
5
11.11%
SFO 034
9
20.00%
LAX 057
2
4.44%
FTC 093
2
4.44%
IAH 171
5
11.11%
CLE 172
1
2.22%
GUM 173
0
0%
Voters: 45. You may not vote on this poll
Time to RECALL the Negotiating Committee
07-02-2022, 10:00 PM
#21
Line Holder
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Posts: 68
Originally Posted by awax
Since when does membership at large give direction to the NC? The TA stinks, but at least base your ****ed offness in facts.
07-02-2022, 11:52 PM
#23
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,803
Originally Posted by Dirkkdiggler
In this case it seems your negotiating committee didn’t take direction from your pilot group,.
So few pilots have actually attended a union meeting that it’s not surprising that nobody understands how union policy and procedure work. To your point, the NC is completely out of touch because the MEC failed.
The current MEC had the opportunity to stop this thing cold, yet they didn’t. Line pilots should have never seen the TA.
07-03-2022, 05:28 AM
#25
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2010
Position: EWR 777 Captain
Posts: 1,715
Originally Posted by Viperstick
Not in C12 anymore, but +1 on this
Two thoughts relevant to this thread from an old timer.
First, I was a Todd supporter as I had beers with him on numerous occasions and assumed the Grievance Chair Todd was the man who became MC Insler, but it turns out I was immensely mistaken and he changed for the worse. Second, the history of WM's past performance indicates she does not have strong convictions to drive her decisions, but rather blows with the wind of those around her. She may appear to be on our side because of the prevailing mood in Council 12, but history shows once she leaves the surroundings of a strong unionist group she waffles. In my opinion she should not be a leader. Unfortunately she is very good at personal politics or so I assume since I only met her once in person.
07-03-2022, 05:51 AM
#26
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 463
Attn all ALPA MEC ChairS
If you allow Insler or Hamilton to get anywhere near ALPA National you will come to regret it. These guys are nothing but FPL or FTFPL seekers and are not at all about being unionists any longer. If you knew MH as an EVP he has so corrupted himself within UALPA since then. He is not a guy you want around ALPA National. And as for Insler, no man in my career have I seen so blatantly think only he can do it than this guy. Listens to no one. Will tell you how it’s gonna be. And you are either with him or you’re history. Puts moles on the forums and gets his guards moderating forums to squelch any dissection against him. He is about 1 voice in the union. HIS!! All others are not worthy.
07-03-2022, 06:02 AM
#27
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,839
Originally Posted by CALPilotToo
If you allow Insler or Hamilton to get anywhere near ALPA National you will come to regret it. These guys are nothing but FPL or FTFPL seekers and are not at all about being unionists any longer. If you knew MH as an EVP he has so corrupted himself within UALPA since then. He is not a guy you want around ALPA National. And as for Insler, no man in my career have I seen so blatantly think only he can do it than this guy. Listens to no one. Will tell you how it’s gonna be. And you are either with him or you’re history. Puts moles on the forums and gets his guards moderating forums to squelch any dissection against him. He is about 1 voice in the union. HIS!! All others are not worthy.
07-03-2022, 06:08 AM
#28
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: May 2019
Posts: 432
Originally Posted by Dave Fitzgerald
I guess memories are short. Think bankruptcy and Glenn Tilton.....
Jesus F’in Christ this right here! I wasn’t around then but heard more than enough from those that were about how things went with her. Hell, now I see pilots on the Facebook group saying they really liked the message in Barton’s latest email trying to capitalize on the chaos here.
Its going to get ugly real fast here and a lot of the players that are going to be the most vocal are not in it because they care about us.
07-03-2022, 06:13 AM
#29
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Sep 2005
Posts: 463
Originally Posted by NuGuy
You do realize that MEC Chairs don't vote for National officers, right?
Last edited by CALPilotToo; 07-03-2022 at 06:24 AM.
07-03-2022, 06:29 AM
#30
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Joined APC: Mar 2008
Posts: 3,839
Originally Posted by CALPilotToo
I honestly thought the MC whom make up the EB of Directors from each ALPA carrier. Is that not correct? I’ve never championed a candidate at the National level so I may have my brain wrapped on the wrong people. Who does vote then?
It's the first person who gets a majority of the votes cast. If you have more than 2 candidates, it takes multiple rounds, because the lowest vote getter drops off.
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