View Poll Results: Recall Request Submitted
NYC 005
16
35.56%
DCA 011
4
8.89%
ORD 012
1
2.22%
DEN 033
5
11.11%
SFO 034
9
20.00%
LAX 057
2
4.44%
FTC 093
2
4.44%
IAH 171
5
11.11%
CLE 172
1
2.22%
GUM 173
0
0%
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Time to RECALL the Negotiating Committee
07-04-2022 | 04:56 AM
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07-04-2022 | 05:45 AM
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You are certainly entitled to your opinion but once the Covid money was approved and it was approved in a timely manner to which no furloughs would have ever happened. And if 2-300 had been released in that Nov/Dec timeline they would have sat home and been paid by the Covid money. But if that narrative you mention is your beliefs so be it.
No pilot would have lost their houses or their Corvettes or Teslas. Simple as that.
No pilot would have lost their houses or their Corvettes or Teslas. Simple as that.
It feels like you’re attributing luck to one side and skill to the other, in kind of an arbitrary fashion
07-04-2022 | 05:50 AM
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I don’t personally know T.I., and from the fairly unanimous assessment of him from those closest (excluding the union members who have something to gain from maintaining his favor), I’m inclined to believe he was a bit of an autocrat, but I think you could kinda easily argue either side as far as the government money is concerned. The union negotiated a bunch of contractual improvements, LTD increase, first class deadhead, 5% raise in profitability, scope change etc, gambling that the government money would come through, and we would reap contractual betterments without having to feel the pain.
It feels like you’re attributing luck to one side and skill to the other, in kind of an arbitrary fashion
It feels like you’re attributing luck to one side and skill to the other, in kind of an arbitrary fashion
07-04-2022 | 06:53 AM
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I do respond because what I despise most about ALPA ( and most unions) and the uninformed masses and political hatchet jobs.
Gotta love an anonymous bully pulpit.
07-04-2022 | 07:43 AM
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Two thoughts relevant to this thread from an old timer.
First, I was a Todd supporter as I had beers with him on numerous occasions and assumed the Grievance Chair Todd was the man who became MC Insler, but it turns out I was immensely mistaken and he changed for the worse. Second, the history of WM's past performance indicates she does not have strong convictions to drive her decisions, but rather blows with the wind of those around her. She may appear to be on our side because of the prevailing mood in Council 12, but history shows once she leaves the surroundings of a strong unionist group she waffles. In my opinion she should not be a leader. Unfortunately she is very good at personal politics or so I assume since I only met her once in person.
First, I was a Todd supporter as I had beers with him on numerous occasions and assumed the Grievance Chair Todd was the man who became MC Insler, but it turns out I was immensely mistaken and he changed for the worse. Second, the history of WM's past performance indicates she does not have strong convictions to drive her decisions, but rather blows with the wind of those around her. She may appear to be on our side because of the prevailing mood in Council 12, but history shows once she leaves the surroundings of a strong unionist group she waffles. In my opinion she should not be a leader. Unfortunately she is very good at personal politics or so I assume since I only met her once in person.
That said, we need the attitude she currently brings.
07-04-2022 | 08:25 AM
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07-04-2022 | 05:08 PM
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Everyone should know their strengths and weaknesses. He was satisfactory in the grievance world. But I do think he went beyond his skill set. He set this up and handed it to Hamilton. He shares most of the blame, yet he's not present to atone.
07-04-2022 | 05:10 PM
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