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Time to RECALL the Negotiating Committee

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Old 07-14-2022 | 11:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean
The Recall Process: Three Easy Steps

1) Get a resolution floored and passed and it has to be added to the meeting agenda item. Simply follow this template posted by Jerry L:

All you need to do is send an email to the local council chair that says something like the following:

“I would like to have consideration of recall for Captain Smith placed on the meeting notice for the next local council meeting”

“I would like to have consideration of recall for First Officer Smith placed on the meeting notice for the next local council meeting”.

Copy the VP of Admin, Captain Bill Couette**
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Email: Go to ALPA.org and log in, then search “Bill Couette email address” and you’ll find it under committees-organizations (the first search result)


2) If the resolution passes it has to be carried to the next meeting so the rest of the council has a chance to consider and vote to pass or fail the motion to recall.

3) If the motion passes to recall it goes to ALPA national and will be open to vote for the members of the council.

Make sure you organize well ahead of time and get the word out. Plan to stack the meeting to standing room only. Once the reps get wind you are planning a recall they will call out their shills in force to attend the meeting.

Get familiar with the basics of Robert’s Rules of Order.

All I can say is Organize, Organize, Organize, and get the word out, because if the recall fails it will further embolden the reps and their minions.

Last, keep the resolution short and sweet, no need for dozens of Whereas. Have someone ready to Second the resolution. Once its been second the resolution is now open for debate and vote.

Here is a simple template you can use.

Whereas: The LEC reps of Council ____ voted in favor of a substandard TA.
Whereas: The LEC reps of Council_____ failed to take input from the members of Council _____ concerning a CBA.
Therefore Be It Resolved: The members of Council ____ have no faith in the current Council Reps to produce an industry leading contract.

Be it further resolved: The members of Council ____ request a vote to recall its Captain and FO representatives.
There needs to be a separate resolution for each rep but otherwise I agree keep it simple and on point.

For any 171 pilots, I have asked that consideration of recall be added to the agenda for the meeting on the 28th. The CA Rep confirmed it has been added.
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Old 07-15-2022 | 01:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AlettaOcean


2) If the resolution passes it has to be carried to the next meeting so the rest of the council has a chance to consider and vote to pass or fail the motion to recall.

3) If the motion passes to recall it goes to ALPA national and will be open to vote for the members of the council.
If the Council Chair puts consideration for Recall of the specific Rep on the the meeting agenda (as requested in writing) and sends out the agenda to the pilots in the Council ahead of time. I believe that eliminates step 2. Proxies can be brought to the LC meeting. If it passes the LC meeting goes to step 3. That saves a step of an additional LC meeting and thus a significant amount of time in the entire recall process.

FYI - You are free to email or call Bill Couette ALPA VP of Admin. He will walk you through the recall process. That’s why it’s important to CC him on the email to the LEC Chair requesting a specific recall (One for CA Rep and or One for FO Rep).
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Old 07-15-2022 | 02:39 PM
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Are half-wingers able to to submit a recall request? Are we recalling Secretary-Treasurer also or just CA/FO reps? I have the rest of July off so I am happy to do whatever legwork I can do to drain the swamp.
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Old 07-15-2022 | 02:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Maingear
Are half-wingers able to to submit a recall request? Are we recalling Secretary-Treasurer also or just CA/FO reps? I have the rest of July off so I am happy to do whatever legwork I can do to drain the swamp.
I think HWs should stay out of it
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Old 07-15-2022 | 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger
I think HWs should stay out of it

Yeah, that's a lot of visibility, at a time when you want zero visibility whatsoever
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Old 07-15-2022 | 04:53 PM
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Originally Posted by fadec

As a commuter I haven't yet been to an LEC meeting. ... I'm not initiated to Roberts rules of order and a motion is to me a Newtonian concept. .... what kind of fukery can I expect?
Classic! You've never been to a meeting and don't know how the process works, but, want to know what kind of fukery to expect. Start by looking in the mirror, next read the policy manual and try to bring a clue.

Not that I disagree with anything that you say, but leading with only anger is a fool's errand. To mount a successful change it's imperative to KNOW the process AND have a plan for what happens after the recall effort is completed.
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Old 07-15-2022 | 05:21 PM
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Definitely heard C5 EWR and and C171 IAH.

Also heard C5 Chair Johnson is dragging his feet.
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Old 07-15-2022 | 05:27 PM
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