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SFO 034
9
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LAX 057
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Time to RECALL the Negotiating Committee

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Old 07-18-2022 | 12:10 PM
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Sounds good. I’ll let people know to ignore her. Hopefully someone more in line with you gets something going.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Mytime2025
You think? My question is why did it take this TA for the pilots to finally get engaged in the process? Four years of doing nothing is why we got this TA .. Apathy and loathing gets you knowhere.
Pre merger there would have been ZERO United pilots picking up any trips during negotiations. If they had their schedules would have been posted behind the glass of the ALPA message boards for all to see. Now we have a new group of pilots bragging about how they get 140 hours of pay every month and fly down to 10 days off and the TA will hurt their chances to keep flying as much as possible on their days off.

That is the reason we have the current TA. We don’t need improvements to reserve, etc because the company knows they can just add some PP and guys are falling all over themselves to grab those trips, even complaining when they can’t fly OT.

You can blame the NC all you want but this pilot group’s daily actions are the blame.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by nfo99
Sounds good. I’ll let people know to ignore her. Hopefully someone more in line with you gets something going.
That’s not at all what he said. Despite the overwhelming frustration with his TA, I think a lot of people are now aware that many of the most vocal NO voters have an agenda of their own. When people start talking about Wendy Morse, John Barton, etc. as suitable replacements… I would honestly go with the devil I know, rather than some of these other goofballs who were definitely not any less self-serving than our current Lowes Hotel country club cadre.

I honestly don’t know anyone personally that is both interested and suitable for any of these union positions, but I would be extremely wary of letting some of the other individuals who have been run out of town back in.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 12:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Chowdah
That’s not at all what he said. Despite the overwhelming frustration with his TA, I think a lot of people are now aware that many of the most vocal NO voters have an agenda of their own. When people start talking about Wendy Morse, John Barton, etc. as suitable replacements… I would honestly go with the devil I know, rather than some of these other goofballs who were definitely not any less self-serving than our current Lowes Hotel country club cadre.

I honestly don’t know anyone personally that is both interested and suitable for any of these union positions, but I would be extremely wary of letting some of the other individuals who have been run out of town back in.
I completely agree on new blood over land of misfit toys finding their way back. I am concerned with “devil I know”. But that’s my opinion and have no interest in discourse without hearing both sides. I’m glad the information is getting out about peoples agendas. Thank you
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Old 07-18-2022 | 01:40 PM
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Aug 17th, the Recall Process will begin in EWR/C5.

PLEASE..
If you are a member in good standing of C5, attend! If you can't attend, give your Proxy to someone who will attend.
It is important that we make the change before it's too late.

It's unfortunate that it's come to this.. but NEVER forget- It was them and our union leadership that started this mess.
13 May = After 3+ years they somehow announce they have an Industry Leading AIP?!
24 June = After another 7 weeks they announce they have a union approved TA.. which they believe is Industry Leading!?
13 July = After hitting Pause on this "Industry Leading TA" and then restarting it 5 days later.. they hit pause again?!

17 August 2022 = We start the process of taking our Union Back!
Recall and Replace~

Till then
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally and Fly the Contract
Always
Motch
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Old 07-18-2022 | 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
Aug 17th, the Recall Process will begin in EWR/C5.

PLEASE..
If you are a member in good standing of C5, attend! If you can't attend, give your Proxy to someone who will attend.
It is important that we make the change before it's too late.

It's unfortunate that it's come to this.. but NEVER forget- It was them and our union leadership that started this mess.
13 May = After 3+ years they somehow announce they have an Industry Leading AIP?!
24 June = After another 7 weeks they announce they have a union approved TA.. which they believe is Industry Leading!?
13 July = After hitting Pause on this "Industry Leading TA" and then restarting it 5 days later.. they hit pause again?!

17 August 2022 = We start the process of taking our Union Back!
Recall and Replace~

Till then
Fly Safe, Fly Professionally and Fly the Contract
Always
Motch
Motch, I believe that you are correct!!! We’re in need of some good R&R!!!
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Old 07-18-2022 | 02:41 PM
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Originally Posted by nfo99
Looks like a few groups are organizing.
C171 IAH Laura Cox
C5 EWR Billy Brown
C34 SFO Bryan Brecher
https://sfo34recallreps.com/
Please add if anyone knows additional efforts.

Where are the recalls for LAX. DEN, CLE & GUM?

If you haven’t read the the Council 11 Vice Chair update (posted on this forum) it’s a must read. It should scare the $hit out of you. Time for a total recall except for ORD & DCA.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by horrido27
13 May = After 3+ years they somehow announce they have an Industry Leading AIP?!
Clarification: UA ALPA began negotiations in the spring of 2018. So, the AIP came after 4+ years of talks with management.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Boeing Aviator
Where are the recalls for LAX. DEN, CLE & GUM?

If you haven’t read the the Council 11 Vice Chair update (posted on this forum) it’s a must read. It should scare the $hit out of you. Time for a total recall except for ORD & DCA.
Because she wrote it, it’s 100% the truth? Yeah, no agenda on her part at all.
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Old 07-18-2022 | 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by nfo99
Looks like a few groups are organizing.
C171 IAH Laura Cox
C5 EWR Billy Brown
C34 SFO Bryan Brecher
https://sfo34recallreps.com/
Please add if anyone knows additional efforts.
Laura Cox!?! GMAFB…. Was Sherry not available…
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